if i give one dollar to martha roby and her campaign, that's public. 501(c)(4)s are not. millions and millions, corporate arms going to and no one knows where is pink spin. that's really broken with our system. it just didn't happen back in the day. >> do we have another question from the audience? >> first of all thank you so much for joining us y here at nu campus. there is certainly a lot of polarization currently in our political environment, and i wanted to ask our two republicans on the stage. so we see in this very polarized era certain courageous republicans like adam kissinger and liz cheney define and even condemning the mag extremist like leaving the january 6th investigations. we saw liz cheney at a rally for kamala harris two days ago. i wanted to ask you two, like what you make of this, a certain republican, trying to alleviate the polarization and going so far as to like risk their own seat and leaving their seats in congress? and would you, did you see yourselves rallying for kamala harris, for example? what to make of liz cheney and adam kissinger and saw

if i give $1 to martha roby and her campaign, that is public. dollars, no one knows where they are being spent. that is what is broken with our system. it did not happen back in the day. >> do we have another question from the audience? >> thank you so much for joining us here at nyu. there is certainly a lot of polarization currently in our political environment and i wanted to ask our two republicans on the stage, we see in this polarized era certain courageous republicans like adam kissinger and liz cheney defying and even condemning the maga extremists, leading the january 6 investigations, i wanted to ask you two, what do you make of this, a republican trying to alleviate the polarization and going so far as to, like, risk of their own seats and leaving their seats in congress, and do you see yourselves -- what do you make of liz cheney and adam kissinger and so on? >> as an original never trumper, i have a unique view. i was in a certain district, when i came out against trump in '16, my primary opponent got 33,000 write-in votes, which ca