paul so he is destroyed talk about destroying trust they're all over and martin chilton south has been in a difficult position he's had to change his position a few times what do you think all of this means for his political fate that's right india if he had to first of all he had to do this u. turn or he would do a u. turn if he came back to the negotiating table to sort of like start exploratory talks he's held accountable for an historic election defeat so he's very much weakened in his position of course. new government would be in his interest if there were new elections for instance if you follow the scenario then he could not under no circumstances be the top candidate for the s.p.d. party ever after having or after being held accountable for this historic election defeat of his own party so he's in a very difficult situation right now but of course he also is trying to any decision that is coming in following now he was trying to put this on solid grounds and this is why he wants to get his voter base approving this decision and he wants time for that to get the best deal for h

gaining time to negotiate all these topics and just briefly oliver where does all of this leave martin chilton his position of leadership in the social democrats he's been in a very difficult position that's right first of all it's the fact that he had this historic election defeat then the u.-turn which might come or not but in the end of the day it's in his interest to remain being the party leader and also it would be in his interest to manage and have his party forming another government because new elections would mean that the s.p.d. would certainly need another top candidate and that cannot be him after this historic election defeat all right oliver salat explain the unprecedented out political uncertainty for us here in berlin thank you all ever. and reminder right now of our top story in germany the leader of the sultan democrats martin schulz has denied reports that his party is ready to enter exploratory talks on forming a government this comes after last night's meeting with the german president and chaffed americal merkel has been trying to form a government since the september el