earlier this month, angela davis, noam chomsky, arundhati roy, martin espada, winona laduke, danny gloverd danny devito joined us for a special virtual anniversary celebration. you can watch the full special at democracynow.org. today we bring you our full conversation with angela davis, the world-renowned abolitionist, author, activist, and professor at the university of california, santa cruz. juan gonzalez and i interviewed her from her home in oakland, california. and make of this 20 fed anniversary, angela, it is such an honor to have you with us as you have done so many times in the last decades. >> well, thank you so much, amy. you know, it seems like it's been longer than 25 years. it seems like democracy now! has always been there. but i think i may also be thinking about i.f. stone's newsletter and some other progressive media in your lineage. amy: well, to be counted in that amazing pantheon, someone like i.f. stone, who said to journalism students, "if you can remember two words, remember 'governments lie.' if you can remember three words, remember 'all governments lie,'" it w