always going to be so low but i'm hearing from the most renowned so-called deficit hawks like martin feldman at harvard and john taylor at stanford, the biggest, biggest names who have been arguing that we are deficit crisis they have been saying that the interest rate is about to shoot up. they have been saying that now for four years. eventually they may be right but at the moment they have been wrong for four years and meanwhile we still have the jobs crisis. so the government has a lot of opportunity to spend on important things to create jobs. number one to help the long-term unemployed to extend that unemployment benefit. that's not just a chair at a program. help people get back on their their feet and get decent decent jobs but also keep spending in the economy more stable so it actually helps stabilize what would otherwise be a more severe situation. on top of that state and local government needs to continue to be supported. state and local government duties three things education health care and public safety all vital and these are areas that have been cut. it's also true that st