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harman: i want to call on martin frost in one minute. there is one other question in a different area. i am sorry if i'm not fair to all of you. there are a lot of questions. maybe this is for you, eleanor, whether there is a spillover event -- not that this issue is resolved -- if it will shed light on the black lives matter issue, which is not the same issue as a school shooting, but it is an issue in the same genre. is there a spillover, do you think, and do you think it is being helpful that these kids are out there in force? rep. holmes norton: the underlying issues are much the same. it is a different group of people, but it is really -- look who black lives matter are. it is not my generation. it is not quite parkland's generation. but it is young people. who again are showing that there is a general understanding in this society that nothing happens without activism. that is the most important element of a democracy that you think that what you are doing can somehow affect a very large issue. for african americans who were bona f