so, this evening, as you heard from martin frost. we are not debating the merits of the various issues you will hear about. we are probing the advocacy that was behind presenting these issues to the congress. and how, those who advocated, essentially, did it. and how, perhaps, what they did would have to be done a little differently in this century than it was in the last century. so, -- eleanor holmes norton, who i met in her advocacy days, way back when, and i just made the point, i think martin was saying there are 600 former members of congress. did you know that since the beginning of time, there have been about 10,500 members of congress? and guess how many of them were female? under 500. that is still the current statistic. so, it is with great pride that i would like to welcome one of my former sisters. eleanor holmes norton. thank you, jane. >> the question eleanor, are you a civil rights advocate in various guises? what turned you on to the issue -- issues, plural? and what did you do? looking back on your on activism, how