like winston churchill, martin gilbert was -- >> pull this forward. >> i have a big mouth. martin gilbert, who is winston churchill's most famous biographer wrote a dozen books of churchill, and one of his bikes was called "the wilderness years "when churchill was cast assad be the conservatives in england, and embarked on a new career of writing and doing radio commentary and lecturing, and mirrors reagan because reagan in '76 had been cast aside by his party. and churchill was warning about the rising threat of adolph hitler and naziism thing most people england were pooh-poohing. reagan spend his wilderness years warning about the rising threat of the soviet union so a lot of parallels between churchill's wilderness years and reagan's wilderness years. there are many many issues that it's serendipitous and also because the force end them to fore, issues like prop 4 in california, the panama canal treaty. that helped produce his election in 1980. doug brinkley, who terrific historian and who edited the reagan diaries said the realm of reagan scholarship is just beginning