martin heinrich and his colleagues decided to close the utility power plant at ship rock. when i spent an entire day there meeting with all the leaders, every type, i asked them what's your unemployment rate? and they told me, we're not sure. but its somewhere between 70% and 80%. and the unemployment problem is so bad that the parents have left ship rock and left their kids there alone to live with the grandparents. chris: thank you very much. we'll come back. we've got 60 second rebuttal and 90 seconds to discuss the issue. ms. domenici: climate change is real. chem trails are not. we need real scientific policies to deal with these issues. the market moved. coal is not going away because someone decided to shut down that coal-fired generating spatial. coal went away because it is no longer competitive in the market and we made clean energy dramatically cheaper than coal-fired generation. ms. domenici: you promised them jobs. sen. henrich: i passed the i.r.a. and we will continue that work with the industrial sector which we need to figure out how to deeply decarbonize a

these doctors have said no one will meet with us because martin heinrich will not sit with us and won'tand fight for the wage increases we need on these fee schedules. chris: thank you very much. we will start this one with mr. heinrich. women's reproductive rights. wide open. sen. heinrich: wide open. we are in a post-dobbs world right now. how did we get there? we got there because some members of the united states senate thought they could have it both ways. there were members of the senate who confirmed supreme court justices who thought that they could be "pro-choice" and at the same time confirm justices that would take away a woman's fundamental right to control what happens to her own body. this is the exact same kind of position that my opponent is taking where she says i won't vote for a national abortion ban but the first thing she's going to do is elect a leader in the united states senate if she is lucky enough to be victorious in this race. republicans will control the senate. they will elect john thune or john horn as leader. and those guys, those white men, have said une

so those are the four categories but i want to go back to this martin heinrich point. it is so important because on my journey to have one-on-one discussions, to learn from the people who are closest to the problems, i heard repeatedly from people we went to washington to meet with martin but they only let a staffer meet. we saw him in his office but he would not come out. and at least five of these groups said after we were not able to meet with him, we saw him walking his dog outside. at first i thought these were just one off answers but they were consistent answers i heard repeatedly. they could not figure out how to get his ears to help us represent us. senator heinrich: that is just false. i meet with new mexicans every single week. i meet with them here. i meet with veterans. i meet with childcare workers. in the last debate my opponent bragged about how many meetings she has taken with ceos. i meet with union people and childcare workers. i meet with regular folks all the time. and i would urge my opponent since she has such incredible , access based on her las