martin j. martin. thanks very much for joining us. i'm. no, neither. it was all medics. i assume you're all set and the not but some. well, they say is the truth is the 1st victim of war is this just the, the so the latest allegation, the latest strike in the information was going on had between um, gauze. and israel i think is around me with this to come. i think these ways are stooping to new levels now and making such a proposal to some allegations. and um, how very ironic that it is. in fact, israel has the diabolical track record of taking videos and affecting audio to present his case to the international community to the international pressing it is the one who's actually accusing now the publish things of doing the same thing and they are well and people say the safe is often the 1st one to cool face, and i think this is very good examples. uh huh. i didn't, of course, that there were those very disturbing stories, which the idea of late to denied about those, those 40 the compensated babies. and you obviously work in the news industry, martin put people in opposition behind computers for most of the day. we're not on the ground. how do you begin to even try to verify claims made by both sides? a good home, but you have to talk to the people and you just have to keep bought it until you figure out a balance and because there's a certain amount of of them forensic work involved as well. i think what we're seeing now is them, you know, these rallies have worked out because that's the wisdom media is so ridiculously. sensationally biased, that is not prepared to look too carefully of what is presented with or, or even statements that have been made. that it's, you know, it's quite happy to go along this sort of, uh, the sort of strategy of, of faking videos or choosing other people to say can videos. but i wonder how long that couldn't really last year. i mean, i'm people are saying and well for me in the last couple of days has been a huge database on social media that is, well, is looting the media all and uh, i think um, th

martin j martin is good to have you join me right now. do you think that might fit as respond to the u. k? defense secretary is comment has something to do with. so that's a decision to backtrack this suggestion and have them go as far as calling it a possible mis reporting. what are you getting police punctures? did he, i mean, he called him an idiot and i, i have to say, i'm a sympathetic to, to that point of view, i really do one the, what does enter the ad? so go shop sooner. is you really mentally silent already losing it. although if you think to be to take a more cyber view of the whole thing and take a step back, one could argue that this was a new defense minister. i'm just testing was sounding off. i'm sending out messages by the press to see what would come by and what we saw, what came box, you know, very, very good examples of how on a nature level internationally the west is no tool on the same page. one member states another, but even on the national level, i'm with breast and it's which is one of the, i would say the one of the countries the read us take the lead in the, the initiative of how we go about the war and ukraine, even in london, you've got government ministers to con, agree with one another on what to do with how to go about it. you know, there's a lot of confusion. we just don't know what between ukraine, we don't know what the subject you saw in the end of this question. that keeps popping up on uh, and the american media with the hybrid um opinion piece has to come, which is, you know, is the role winnable i think is resonating more and more recently. and obviously it isn't right. in addition to sending me instruct us to trade in ukraine, you case defense secretary mentioned having a british defense stop manufacturing in the country. do you think that they could be a financial aspect to this proposal and how well manufacturing military equipment to ukraine affects the british economy? yeah, it doesn't, may, will be a boost to the economy. i mean, we shouldn't be naive about um, well what, what is a rock is, as i pick a racket and the kind well, if you look at the amount of money that's been shuffled towards industrial ministry complex in america, but has put in the thinking of a rush, as soon as i can is a, is compact fits the in the cabinet is little perhaps we need a bigger slice of the cake as well. and start to think we need to start thinking about how um, money can come a way and create jobs and house investment. i think that's, that's part of it. but the other thing which is more worried, i think, is that we should never forget the crime is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and very much a black hole. wherever you send money into it, it just disappears without traits. and i'm just wondering, was a part of this deal is to keep us lensky and this could bo suites with back condos and brought envelopes um for the commissions they will naturally instigates within part of those. any of that, do you any of that structure? you know, so, you know, any business we do with you findings, we have to fight to the ends with which we shouldn't be night. you know, there was going to be a lot slice off the top of that. so transaction, i'm just going to go to him. and his and his clothes on. the russian cut is on the black to know that the british tyler the 2 times previously consented on defeated have been the. busy didn't you train dr. printers military have anything else to offer in terms of military innovation, in your opinion? or i'm not sure about innovation. i mean training is something we do very well. but i think the suggestion from the defense minister, the that we can move over operation to ukraine is, is erroneous, and it'll conceive, i mean, it just sends out somebody negative messages. always sign the, the previous program that we have going and the u. k. of training ukrainian meant by the british. all me, are we saying that's a fine? yeah. i mean, it seems to be, well, the messages just if we have to, if we need to move it to ukraine, you know, how does that improve it? how does that make it any better? i think the ideas are off training, so there's in ukraine is a, it's very much an, a, an emission of defeat on many levels. but it's also madness because you only need one of those british soldiers to be hit by miss. so and then you have the possibility of also 5 nights happening and vote on a world war 3 scenario. and i think that's really the comments that come into india to being branded around is very apt because of that we comp, possibly be serious. the person cannot possibly be serious about sending troops over to you to create. although i have stood at the beginning of the conflict on a talk show, there's only a question of time before the british american soldiers will be, will have boots on the ground. the one that was referred to was more in a private capacity in terms of messages. i think that could be a possible scenario in the longer term. you can call me, i'm just gonna ask you just simply don't have the numbers. they haven't got the man, and that's really the, the critical issue right now. right? 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