the book "chasing king's killer" is about the death of martin luther king jr. and his assassin james earl ray. the author james swanson was interviewed by "associated press" writer jesse holland. >> host: this is an absolutely fabulous book especially now that we are coming up on the 50th anniversary of the assassination of dark to martin luther king, jr.. why now? why is this a subject that we need to talk about now, james earl ray? >> guest: first of all it's a book i've always wanted to write remember when he came to chicago in 1956. i remember his assassination and i remember so vividly that my father the day after dr. king's prayer he came home early from work. i said where you home? he said my employee lives in the south and west side of chicago. they are going home to protect their houses and their families. he drove me to the neighborhoods it's a story i've lived with since i was a child and i knew the anniversary is coming up. i think it's an important occasion and it's really the climax of a trilogy of books i'd done on assassinations in american life

1968, come doctor robert shaw put down his baton to the command of the audience and announced martin luther king jr. had been killed. in ynalia and of course where martin luther king was born and grew up and lived at the time. the concert goes -- they gasped and moaned. clearly i haven't read that part out loud before. [laughter] i toyed the students read your essays out loud so you can catch the errors. the concert goers gasped and moaned and prayed for king and explained the king is dead, long live the king. on the opposite side of the country, james baldwin sat by a swimming pool with the actor billy williams, the phone rang and the phone told him of another tragedy in memphis it took a while before the sound of his voice, i don't mean to sound of his voice but something in his voice got throughce to me. at first she felt numb and then an unbelieving wonder overtook him. he went briefly and finally succumb to a shock. finally that would remain a blur in his memory. he wrote it is retiring in my mind. in blacksburg virginia, hundreds of college students packed an auditorium to watch the senato

. >> do they know about martin luther king? >> that is the night that robert kennedy gave what is one of the more remarkable speeches any politician has ever given. >> ladies and gentlemen, i have some very sad news for all of you and i think for all of our fellow citizens and people who love peace all over the world, and that is that martin luther king was shot was killed tonight in memphis, tennessee. >> tennessee was on fire. >> washington, chicago, detroit, boston, new york, these are just a few of the cities in which the negro anguish expressed itself in violent destruction. ♪ ♪

the book "chasing king's killer" is about the death of martin luther king jr. and his assassin james earl ray. the author james swanson was interviewed by "associated press" writer jesse holland. >> host: this is an absolutely fabulous book especially now that we are coming up on the 50th anniversary of the

i was recently watching footage of martin luther king when he was on meet the press and i was moved to go back and look at it because they played the clip of him saying we have martin luther king on the show but if you watch the interview it was a panel of white journalists basically trying to discredit or undermine him or portray him as a crazed extremist. >> i think that this is another one of the aspects of a myth. the media in our imagination of the movement is a slice of it and civil rights leaders like john lewis gave you a lot of credit. they say that it would have been without the media's role in the southern struggle but i think that's kind of blinded us to all the other ways that the media portrayed the movement both in the south and long before 1955 and the ways that the media is covering the struggle an struggn backyard versus topics covering princeton's birmingham by 1963. so one of the things i talk about in the book and since it seems that we should talk a little about new york tonight and after a brown v. board of education, black activists, fight allies sort of see thi

hope in the deeper sense of martin luther king jr.lues says never be optimistic, never be pessimistic. to be full of hope is to be in action in movement. intellectually, in motion, spiritually. so i am in no way, my brother, optimistic. i have never been an optimist. never been a moment in human history where we have grounds for optimist. no, hope is about creating the n new evidence. and therefore not conforming to the idols but rather being nonconformist in light of a love of justice, a tenderness, a sweetness and then you go to meet your maker with a smile. >> and action, that is where you put the focus. >> just a courageous vision, courageous action, courageous grin, courageous touch. action takes a number of different forms. it is not just hitting the streets and going to jail. some of us can do that. some of us must have a willingness to die. you can think, you can be a poet. kendrick lamar is an activist and a poet and that is a form of action. yourself as high quality journalist, that is a form of action. you don't need to hit

nation's reaction to the death of martin luther king junior on april 4, 1968. welcome everyone and thank you so much for coming out tonight. i am the manager here we are so delighted to have jason with us tonight. he is the author of the brand-new book the heavens mike crack. he received his phd in history from uc berkeley. he is the associate professor of history at the university of new hampshire and he's the author of two other critically acclaimed books on the history of the hip --dash a civil rights movement. not too distant mirror shivers with intensity. with the continued relevance to their own travail. please join me in welcoming jason to water street bookstore. think you step for the introduction and for having me here at water street books. thank you to everybody for coming to this inaugural reading of my third book. i need to be tied to the it's exciting. we are starting history and making a little bit. most books on martin luther king on the balcony in memphis. that was on april 4, 1968. that's where it might begin. i pick up the story where many pr

martin luther king jr. of all men that we must unite in compassion in order to survive. >> the best picture nominees that year were genuinely controversial and influential. movies like "bonnie and clyde," "the graduate," "guess who's coming to dinner," "in the heat of the night," both trying to address racism and race relations. >> virgil, that's a funny name. i heard you come from philadelphia. what did they call you up there? >> they called me mr. tibbs. >> "in the heat of the night," sidney poitier was playing a black man who was strong, who was smart, who was decisive. the movie takes place in the deep south. >> let me understand this. you two came here to question me? >> we were just trying to clarify some of the evidence. was mr. colbert ever in this greenhouse, say last night about midnight? >> this is 1968. you don't have black men hitting white men in movies and getting away with it and living to tell the tale, anyways, and he does. >> there was a time when i could have had you shot. >> sidney poit

martin luther king jr.f all men that we must unite in compassion in order to survive. >> the best picture nominee that year were genuine ly controversial and influential. movies like bonnie and clyde, the graduate, guess who's coming to dinner, in the heat of the night, trying to address racism. >> that what did they call you there? >> they called me mr. tibbs. >> in the heat of the night sydney poitier played a black man who was strong, smart, decisive. the movie takes place in the deep south. >> let me understand this. you two came here to question me? >> we were just trying to clarify some of the evidence. was mr. colbert ever in this greenhouse, say last night about midnight? >> this is 1968. you don't have black men hitting white men in movies and getting away with it and living to tell the tale, anyways and he does. >> there was a time when i could have had you shot. >> sydney pottier completely holds his own not just as an actor but the character virgil tibbs. at its core, it's a murder/mystery, but

most people think of martin luther king as a civil rights leader. the people don't look at him in that way in the scholarly world.un but unfortunately most of the public does not know that. so the book is the attempt to bridge the gap and it is short so trying to create a different way of remembering. and then to have 3000 people mentioning from the local we took over all the streets with union people from every part of the country and the united auto workers but thousands of people came for the march and the national civil rights museum. all kinds of events one of the most touching was jesse jackson. and then to recommit themselves and remember what this is really about. so how we remember him is crucial. here is the one person of color where we have an actual holiday and but to honor him would be the first holiday in memory. >> but then when they wrote the other books i came out in 2007 but dominant was the image of martin luther king in -- montgomery but but he was the spokesperson and brought in and needed a megaphone for the movement of people

if you like the policies of donald trump, 0k, anybody, martin luther king would be proud of him. proud of him. what he has done for the communities forjobs. he think martin luther king would be proud of donald trump? that was the lowest on of them in recorded history. we get the unemployed that we had in the black community five years ago. you don't think he would sit there and go yes, you're putting black men and women to work? the lowest employment we have in history. steve bannon was speaking to my colleague emily maitliss and you can hear her questioning bannon‘s claim. and martin luther king's daughter, bernice king has responded strongly on twitter. steve bannon has dangerously and erroneously co—opted my father's name. bannon‘s assertion that my father would be proud of donald trump wholly ignores daddy's commitment to people of all races and nationalities, being treated with dignity and respect. bernice king there speaking. reacting strongly on twitter. let's go back to anthony who is monitoring all of this for us. again, obviously there is upset there bernice king. how c

there is a version of martin luther king and referred to as refrigerator magnet martin it was reducedto uplifting quotes what he really got from this book was humanizing at and taking the lacquer off of martin luther king and showing him the faults and all. there was a smoker. he didn't sleep well. he played practical drugs. -- practical jokes. it was kind of bringing him back to us and set upon him a point him down off the mountaintop. some people would like to think that king was a saint and he was perfect in every way and idealized human beings but he was a human being. he have some have some of the frailties of a human being and i wanted to paint him as he was. i think it actually enhances it shows him as a farmer impressive person that he did had frailties like anyone. and talked about the fact that he have affairs and people were scandalized less that he have affairs then he was actually talking about them. you have that in your book as well. i interviewed a mistress georgia davis he was a woman of standing in the civil rights movement herself she comes to memphis on the night o

the spirit of martin luther king. we talked about racism and poverty and militarism. >> muslims and anti jewish racism. our challenge is how do we fortify ourselves to make those who engage in such language and action accountable and responsible and most importantly how do we ensure that we are strong enough to help overcome the various forms of racism? what we don't want to do is fantasize these magical powers or these moments of vicious hatred. we have to decenter it and keep the focus on. people who are fighting, people who are trying to come to terms with what it means to overcome contempt and hatred. i think it was more important than anything else. trump will be trump. he is gangster. he mobilizes and appeals to the base. he is america's cherry pie. which part of america is going to triumph? right now the kings part is very weak and feeble. we are getting stronger. >> i wonder if you were hardened at all by corporate america. black panther brought in african american audiences that disney had not seen before. is

martin luther king jr.y held private meetings and private meals here in this room at this table on this china for three days and two nights. and they discussed the plan i of the selma to montgomery march. doctor bunch during that point in his life was ailing, and just to give you a little bit of a background while dr. bunch, to sum up to meet with dr. king. dr. bunch received the nobel peace prize in 1950 for brokering the peace agreement between israel and palestine. dr. king received is in 1954. but my mother finished high school in washington, d.c., and during her high school years she lived two doors down from dr. bunch, and my mother and his daughter were best friends in high school. so there was a connection. joan bunch called it was one day and said, is martin luther king, jr. living in your home? and my mother said yes. and she said, my father wants very much to come and talk to him about this upcoming march. and my mother assured her that if dr. bunch came to selma, she and my father would take exc

king as dr. martiny -- that actually was mayor during that period and was mayor in 2000 when he was defeated. he was an interesting guy. eaves machine position and savvy in his politics and he -- he controlled this town. former mayor was more of a chameleon and populous kind of politician and shifted his political base as a demographics the community change is what is good politics. as the demographics change he would add african-american to his cabinet who was from an influential family in the community and that would bring a block of african-american votes to his base and he would do that consistently. and he was successful with that in 2000 there was a election that the atmosphere there had been a shift and i think everyone felt it. becoming the first african-american mayor selma was humbling economic decline was one of the biggest problems we challenged segregated education system and declining quality of education disparities -- very significant disparities in health care, education, economics, tho

malcolm x made martin luther king look good. and that is why the power structure made concessions to him. they were not moved by, oh, there's terrible injustice in the country, but there is disorder and there is disorder and there's a crisis and we need to do something about it. the army of history is that, despite the civil rights movement, the city still burned in 1967 anyway. because the civil rights act of 1964 was too little, too late, -- is what we would have done in 1945. mexico, it is of very important that the 1968 or the post-1968 student massacre and the state crime that was developed a culture of human rights in mexico and the violation of human rights. i would say that is one of the most important aspects of these fights through nonviolent strategies and tactics. what i mentioned before, the mother activism we have in latin america, it happened in mexico. it happened in argentina. it happened in other regions of central mark of -- central america, like el salvador. but instead -- but in el guerrila you have revoluti

luther king, and if there were allegations that martinging around with communists, the kennedys had to do their best to drive a wedge between those two parties. and they did. and they authorized the wiretaps and they kept their distance from martin luther king. >> you asked a question what would have happened had they both not been assassinated. what's your theory? >> my theory is it's very hard to tell because there remained great barriers between the two of them, they didn't particularly like or trust one another. they admired each other but they were awkward with one another. martin luther king was also in a way by 19 of -- 1968 damaged merchandise. he was getting it from black traditionalists and black radicals. it's unclear if bobby kennedy would have wanted to embrace him or had the political capital to embrace him. >> this is the book, "the promise and the dream." thank you very much. >> thank you, alex. >> coming up, what's there to learn today? hey! we didn't have a homeowners claim last year so allstate is giving us money back o

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martin luther king jr.hat has been the reaction so far about what you have heard about meghan markle's personal touches? >> i spoke to someone who was with her the night before the wedding. i asked about the feminism side. i asked is it a message? she said no. she's doing it the way she wants to do it. to do things your own way, express your own character is incredibly hard do especially for a foreigner who doesn't understand the system. perhaps it worked in her fay var. i have to say, the royal family allowed her to be herself which of course they didn't do with diana to disasterous effect. it. >> was refreshing once you realize this ceremony is different. it's you nuke. it's about meghan and harry. >> and all inclusive. >> thanks. >>> excellent kcoverage. let's continue with richard. >> long day yesterday. >> indeed. it was extraordinary. this was a ceremony with global reach on social media. there's never been anything bigger. we had our first american princess. she was able to choose so much as harry wa

marked by contentious presidential election and a raging vietnam war and the assassinations of martin luther king f. kennedy. >> my father really focused on the people in this country. his appeal was to the most disenfranchised. people from harlem, oakland and farm workers. very similar to martin luther king focussing on the poor and working people. >> in the aftermath of dr. king's assassination, it's scott king to make the notation change was needed now. >> my husband always said if anything happened to him, to carry on his work for his people. >> she was always an activist. before martin was an activist and she continued to be outspoken in order to make the point that you can kill my husband but this movement is going to go on. >> cnn's anna cabrera sat down with three special guests to learn more about tonight's episode. >> let me start with you, with all of the upheaval we talk about in today's politics, american culture. we think about 1968 and really, it's no comparison, is it? >> no, i mean, we live in anxious times now but 1968 was a time of upheaval, just remember some of the horrific e

funny, my boy tremayne tweeted, you know, a picture of me and virgil, and he said, malcolm x, martin luther king and all these people got mad. like, how can you compare them to that? man, i know this is gonna cause an uproar, but certain icons is just too far in the past and not relatable. >> wow. >> it's stunning, right? it's stunning on so many levels. first of all, again this idea why we're still talking about slavery and a right-wing, alt-right talking point, this idea of black on black crime,

the many accolades and awards you forsee for your career you one of the disappearance of the martin luther king jr peace prize not in the fiftieth anniversary of his death as a has a special resonance for you i think of the triplets that he talked about of the triple ill of poverty and racism in militarism so we have not progressed all that much in the last fifty years in a way that when luther king would have wanted so to be a recipient of this prize i don't feel that i have done nearly enough to make his dream a little closer to reality and why isn't the agree rallying figure of of radical american like martin luther king was in the in the one nine hundred sixty s. world figure a managing to. lead an army that's waiting to be led. i think bernie sanders did it during his campaign i was actually shocked i was one of the people as part of a group called progressive democrats of america i'm a green and a progressive democrat that pushed for bernie sanders to run i thought he would do sort of the way that ralph nader had done in his presidential runs maybe two to three percent if he did really we

it's martin luther king that beautiful passage. where he saying the greatest threat might not be the clan. i agree with your goals but not with the message. i think we see a lot of that. we have lots of people who say they are on board with the goals and ideas of black lives matter but a lot of the tactics there has been so much criticism and a lot of that criticism is not coming from again in the words of king the moderate or the liberal i think there's also a danger there is the way but the civil rights movement is often invoked in this conversation. near to too extreme here too disruptive that crazy moment two years ago which we've talked about before where the mayor of atlanta he is celebrating by explaining the huge police presence at these demonstrations around the weight it is moved to chastise black lives matter i think often my people who profess allegiance to the goals. i think we have to talk about that. i think there is a way that the evoking makes people feel like i would be with that kind of movement. but these people

you don't think martin luther king wouldn't be proud? the black community five years ago. you don't think martin luther king would sit there and go "yes, you're putting young black men and women to work?" the lowest unemployment we've had in history and wages starting to rise among the working class and you finally stop the illegal alien labour forces coming in and competing with them every day and destroying the schools and destroying the health care? absolutely. do you think getting out of this... look the capitalist and globalists, they want unlimited labour. right? because that's why they can pay 10 bucks an hour and not pay for the schools and not pay for the health care. so when i was sitting there with le pen, i said, "when you have that record and they call you a racist, it means they can't debate the facts. wear that with pride," and i wear with pride and when they call me a racist, i go, "you know why you are you doing that? because you don't want to talk about economic nationalism. you don't want to talk about that it has noth

. >> tucker: couldn't you say that martin luther king fight for justice and he did. t to take most of what you earn. and martin luther king would be in favor of lower tax rates. he didn't talk about lower tax rates and global warming. >> as it relates to justice and fighting injustice. i am assuming, but i am assuming through the legacy of what dr. king stood for, that is the same message we'll using and in the fight for environmental justice. when you have time and time again, you have communities especially in the black belt of alabama that doesn't have adequate sewage and poisoned by coal ash. you think it must be a civil right's issue. people that are affected is people of color. i can understand that. >> tucker: i sort of see what you are saying. poorer people live in crummier place and polluted and there is a bunch of reasons for that. ukraine, chernobyl disaster, there was a lot of poor people. and it is a racial issue and makes them think it is it a conspiracy to pollute because of skin color. >> i agree to a certain extent. but the class point you make. that

if you look at the policies of donald trump, okay, anybody, martin luther king would be proud of him for the black and hispanic community for jobs. >> you think martin luther king would be proud of the president? >> it's the lowest unemployment in history? look at the unemployment we had in the black community five years ago. you don't think martin luther king would sit there and go you're putting young black men and women to work? and wages are starting to rise among the working class and you finally stop the illegal alien labor force coming in and competing with them every day and destroying the school and destroying the health care? absolutely. >> you think he'd be proud? >> oh, my god. and i was having such a good day. let me try to call this thing fair. his numbers are correct but what he doesn't seem to understand is that from 2011 until now there's been a linear straight line down for unemployment for the black community, which means that the process that we're talking about got started under president obama. and to donald trump's credit, he didn't come in and screw it up but h

we're also hearing from bernice king, the daughter of martin luther king jr. she's calling for a boycott. >> that's right. bernice king, daughter of martin luther king jr., tweeting, "family, let's stay out of @wafflehouse until they start to implement changes." >> pierre thank you. the controversy swirling over what was said inside the white house about john mccain. mccain expressed strong reservations over the president's cia nominee. now it's learned that a staffer at the white house said of his opinion, it doesn't matter. he's dying anyway. mccain's daughter is ask how is this person still employed. here's mary bruce. >> reporter: tonight, no explanation, no acknowledgement and no apology from the white house. >> i'm not going to validate a leak one way or the other out of an internal staff meeting. >> reporter: press secretary sarah sanders refusing repeatedly to address comments made by a white house aide, who dismissed john mccain's opposition to the president's nominee to lead the cia, saying "it doesn't matter, he's dying anyway." mccain is battling b

there were protests in the aftermath of the martin luther king assassination.eople who lived through those events, they often remember, as one of the callers mentioned, this rapid chain of events. it seems that one thing would ease and then suddenly a new crisis would develop. elizabeth: the great difference is that we are sitting here and talking about it. i was in china two weeks ago and there, the great famine is described as a time when china was trying to pay russia back for its help to china, so that is world of food went. someone else said, we never saw that picture of a young man standing in front of a tank in tiananmen square, so this is complicated, whether china is a political system or an economic system, you have a system that is so authoritarian that you can't have the protests that we had here, that were traumatic in washington dc in 1968, but we came back from them. and we didn't mow down our people to stop the protests. host: richard joining us from missouri. good morning. caller: good morning. i am 80 years old so i know about the cold war. 19

i think that's an important point of what my father was able to do after the martin luther king as assassination, he went into minneapolis, into the inner city to say martin luther king died and how his brother was killed by a white man and to say we have all suffered and there's pain and during the speech he asked, he said we all have to have love and compassion for those who suffer, whether they be white or black and let us say a prayer for our country and indianapolis was one of the few cities in the country who didn't break out to riots because there was a politician that was able to reach out to people's pain and say i understand where you're coming from and let's look together and you can see number one that if somebody is able to do that, and does do that and has the courage to do that after he was told by the chief of police and the mayor don't go into the inner city, he did it any way, so it makes a difference. so there is actions one can take that can lift people's spirits up and bring peace. that i think is your question. as to who can do it today, i think we have a whole slew of cand

king really was. as you say here in poverty and more. i started the book with a letter from martin luther king.here he talks about dedicating myself to indy racism. that is 1952. he is still a graduate student. he was in the social gospel tradition of the black church. the people at the bottom. his father was that way. he was one of those poor people. one of the things i do in the book is how people to know that despite the phd. one of the most well-educated people of his generation was a the great grandson of slaves. his father came to the city with nothing. it was through the black church in the black community that they rose up but not in a wealthy way. if you go to the king home in atlanta. it's not like a mansion or anything. around was a neighborhood that was very poor at the time. and king was born in 1929 this is part of the king heritage. after the montgomery bus boycott. he started giving a charge to his audience. i never intend to adjust myself to the tragic inequalities of an economic system which takes this up necessities from the masses. i call upon you to be maladjusted. and he w

martin luther king jr. play this. >> the late dr. uote, we must discover the power of love, the redemptive power of love. when we do that, we will make of this old world a new world. for love, love is the only way. >> loved that. that was from 1957 from dr. king. his sermon, loving your enemies. why those lines if the civil rights icon? some people saw it as political. >> it was absolutely spiritual. what the ripple effects are, that's beyond me. but it was absolutely spiritual just as jesus of nazareth was spiritual. jesus picked up that cue from moses. >> the former chief strategist of the trump administration talked about dr. king to the bbc. watch this. >> donald trump has the lowest black unemployment in history. the lowest unemployment. if you look at the policies of donald trump, anybody, martin luther king would be proud of him and what he's done for the black and hispanic community. >> dr. king would be proud of donald trump? >> the lowest unemployment in recorded history? you don't think martin luther king would be proud? lo

king. >> we must discover the power of love. >> reporter: martin luther king jr. >> the redemptive powerblack wedding broke out. . >> exactly. and there was a really interesting bringing together of different ethnicities of blackness which i think is kind of profound. you have an african-american preacher. two parts that were really fascinating about bishop curry's sermon. one just the kind of deep profound commitment to love as the basis of all societies, the basis of politics, of commerce. i mean, he was giving a really profound message in the tradition as he invoked dr. -- reverend dr. martin luther king. ♪ when the night has come >> reporter: who lwill ever forget london. london's kingdom choir, their soulful version of "stand by me" a contemporary choice in a 1,000-year-old chapel. >> it was pretty striking. right away we saw there was a gospel choir. ♪ so arldarling, darling, stand me ♪ they sang "stand by me," which is such a deeply american song. ♪ stand by me ♪ stand by me >> the couple chose their music. they were very hands on about what they wanted to sing and how they wanted

i think that's an important point of what my father was able to do after the martin luther king as assassination, he went into minneapolis, into the inner city to say martin luther king died and how his brother was killed by a white man and to say we have all suffered and there's pain and during the speech he asked, he said we all have to have love and compassion for those who suffer, whether they be white or black and let us say a prayer for our country and indianapolis was one of the few cities in the country who didn't break out to riots because there was a politician that was able to reach out to people's pain and say i understand where you're coming from and let's look together and you can see number one that if somebody is able to do that, and does do that and has the courage to do that after he was told by the chief of police and the mayor don't go into the inner city, he did it any way, so it makes a difference. so there is actions one can take that can lift people's spirits up and bring peace. that i think is your question. as to who can do it today, i think we have a whole slew of cand

antiwar movement, et cetera. >> allen, it is wonderful to talk about the abuses of power of martin luther kingt, it has nothing to do with what happened here. they tried to get martin luther king to kill himself. and here, there were a couple of conversations between george pop do dop louse and this confidential informer. but to call this as the president has worst than watergate is preposterous and it is our job to call it out. >> i agree with you. it is nowhere near watergate. but it is also not nothing. i have no problem with at least inquiring. i think trump overstates it when he says it is worst than watergate, and that is what presidents and presidential campaigns and people who are being investigated do. >> you are normalizing trump's behavior and it is not the same on what other president's do. >> i am criticizing his behavior. i as a civil libertarians has a right to be concerned -- >> jeff, fair to have that public inquiry? >> absolutely not. there is a tradition and a rule within the justice department that they do not disclose the witnesses or investigative techniques about pending

martin luther king jr.itation worker strike the strike has turned into a major racial issue in memphis. >> we were an orderly march going up the main street. i was in the middle of it. and there was some unruly people no doubt, loud people. and i saw the police in a phalanx and said they're breaking this up. >> then suddenly a handful of men busting a window over here. >> chaos has just broken out downtown. negro youths are smashing windows. >> and i went back to king in the first rank and said, martin, the police up there are planning to break us up we're you're going to be a major target. so we're going to turn around and go back. >> that sound you just heard was the sound of tear gas fired by a police officer in an attempt to thwart this unruly demonstration. >> you will face arrest. we urge you to return to your homes immediately for your own safety. >> move! >> we must not allow the events of the day to cause us to let up. that would be a tragic error. >> there will be continued marches. we will not st

t also 1968, i had truck drivers going through whenever martin luther king was assassinated.t was trying times. but the thing about johnson is that everybody don't like him. but everybody over 65 ought to like him because that's when he signed medicare in. i'll let you go then. host: richard, thank you. a real dichotomy by the dough mist mestic policy and the foreign policy. >> i remember the first time i walked into the l.b.j. library. i came as a person -- i remember the vietnam war. i protested against it myself. and so, you know, i had this idea, oh johnson, now how many kids did you kill today as one of our viewers were saying earlier? and the fact was is that once you walk in there and you start to realize everything else that this man did that the barrel he was over in a way when it came to foreign policy, because we forget there were five vietnam president. truman got us really engaged in vietnam. eisenhower, kennedy, johnson, nixon and so this cold war logic, this sense that we had at all costs to maintain this, you know, push back against the spread of communism rea

the third factor was martin luther king's four people campaign, which was the sign that not only his opposition to the war which had built up over the years, his famous speech at riverside church a year before, but now king was saying the evils within american justice and equality, so the poor people's campaign was just getting started when he was killed. i was curious if any of those issues came within your purview of analyze what was happening to not only philadelphia, but throughout the country, in terms of loss of confidence in terms of the quality of life in the united states affected by the war? >> the only thing i would say later,y lai, which comes and i don't know the legal recall,lities that i richard nixon pardoned or commuted the sentence of lieutenant kelly, which is a pretty good indication that he thought that would be the popular move. here is somebody responsible and convicted of a war crime, but nixon still thought it some way, whichsunda suggested he had this therstanding of where so-called silent majority was on a lot of these issues, the perception that somehow he

they had martin luther king being assassinated and they used that as an excuse to pass the antiproperty laws, someone will always say that a reason exists for the passage of some law but ki say to you, if i become the president, we are going to maintain law and order in the nation's capitol. that's going to be a good moral support for law and order in the united states when women can walk the streets and people with ride the transit systems. >> you repeatedly objected to being called a racist. >> yes. i do not regard myself a racist. i think that the biggest racists are the ones that called others racist. my wife got more negro votes than others in alabama. negro citizens would not have voted for my wife if they considered me a racist. >> governor, today. >> i said that within the context of the public school systems, i again say that when i said i was honest and when i come to washington, dc and i see all of the folks that talk one way but move to virginia and maryland. when i see people expediting the rush from the city. >> what bridges. >> they have been here a while. you have a lot

agree rallying figure of of radical medical like like martin luther king was in the in the one nine hundred sixty s. we're going to imagine to. lead an army that's waiting to be led i think bernie sanders did it during his campaign i was actually shocked i was one of the people as part of a group called progressive democrats of america i'm a green man a progressive democrat that pushed for bernie sanders to run i thought he would do sort of the way that ralph nader had done in his presidential runs maybe two to three percent if he did really well he get five percent i was blown away by how well bernie sanders did you know this is a very conservative society in the united states the center in the u.s. is the far right in many other places in the world and bernie sanders calling himself a socialist i said you never get anywhere using that term and long behold among young people they do or him a poll that was done at the time showed that for the younger generation they had a more positive view of socialism than they did of capitalism of course it also said in the poll they had no idea what soc

also, 1968, i had truck drivers kansas when martin was the king was assassinated.hat was fun times. living about johnson, everybody don't like him, but anybody over 65 years old ought to like him, because he's you signed medicare in. the real dichotomy between the foreign-policy approach and the domestic policy by the johnson white house. guest: i remember the first time i walked into the lbj library, and i came in as a person who were members of the vietnam war and i protest -- who remembers the vietnam war and i protested myself.it johnson, how many kids did you kill today. was, what youct walk in and you start to realize everything else that this man over whenarrel he was it came to foreign-policy that we forget, there were five vietnam war presidents. truman got us engaged in vietnam, eisenhower, kennedy, johnson, nixon. this cold war logic, the sense that we had at all costs to maintain this pushback against the spread of communism really trapped people. what is so fascinating about johnson, and i'm so glad the viewer mentioned this, is that he brought us medi