and also martin luther king. when i look at these two great leaders, i say there is something about each one of them that contributed significantly to black progress for people of african descent. there are things about both of them also that we could criticize. martin luther king may have stayed with the nonviolence thing a little bit too long, a lot of people say. you know. in fact later on in his life, he questioned whether or not nonviolence could work in an unethical society. because the premise of nonviolence is that sooner or later the folk who are pressing you are going to get embarrassed or something. you know, feel like oh, my god, we're really making ourselves look bad. but what if the folks who are oppressing you don't have that kind of humanity? some folks just don't have shame. if you are trying to shame someone who does not have any shame, you are in trouble. martin luther king ultimately came to that point and questioned that. you read his books. and ultimately at one point martin luther king ques

martin luther king jr. is important. martin luther king jr. there are more in the united states. he says that his vision of american democracy is found when she gets the respect and credit and access. before he becomes this black power icon and image and symbol of political revolution,, before he is with fidel castro and others, sl is pursuing radical democracy and the deep south one of the most interesting parts from the was the relationship between doctor king and stokely carmichael. they were friends. stokely serves as his chauffeur and bodyguard during freedom summer. they marched together. that relationship comes to the floor once stokely becomes chairman in may of 1956. the meredith march from june 7 until june 26th is the march that transforms stokely carmichael's wife and the civil rights movement. going to be shot on the second day of the one man march across the state of mississippi to approve a black man could march through mississippi without fear. carmichael, martin luther king jr., to his bedside and about to continue his march. after being arrested for the 27th tim

what happens to martin luther king jr.? he gets sanitized and sterilized because that much black glove and fire is always a threat to america. americas misunderstands black rage as always being connected to revenge. it can be connected to black love. this is what love looks like in public, tenderness is what feels like in private. he was a tender man too just like malcolm. he was a sweet man. but he had a deep commitment to justice. when he died 72% of americans disapproved of him. 55% of black people disapprove of martin when he died. everybody loves him now that the worms got him. the fbi said he was the most dangerous man in america. how come? so much love. so much fire. why was that he was unpopular at the end? a critique of empire, the greatest purveyor of violence in the world, he was telling the truth, vietnam, trying to organize all poor people beyond civil rights, adding human-rights, and talked about in 64 going to the united nations, bringing america to try for the violation of human rights of black people. that

but martin luther king jr. was more.influential in terms of overall history as a race leader because booker twa said they were just going to kind of sit calmly and accept what this is for now, martin luther worked for change not just for black people. he worked for better standards of living for everyone in america. book booker twa seems very intent on pursuing a personal agenda and elevating his status in politics and being the first at the white house. martin luther king accomplished everything he did without an official office. and he's better. you were saying that booker t. washington was the first and only to be appointed to an office, but that doesn't make him the man overall because if you ask someone in this country whether they are 6 16 or 60 who the preeminent symbol of racial equality martin luther king is the answer that comes up and that legacy holds more weight than any presidential appointment. >> okay, all right. who agrees with her? what do you have to say? >> you say he's a racial accommodation ist acco

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martin luther king jr. and not much following their assessed nation. like his peers on the nonviolent coordinating committee, he started off as a believer is nonviolence and his experience of others led him to concentrated thinking on the notion of black self-defense. he was a complex figure in that laxity captured this in the biography, "stokely: a life." you can never be disappointed with someone termed the chocolate fred astaire. peniel jospeh is a professor at the university and a commentator on subjects such as race relations and civil rights and politics and democracy and i must say that he is a really nice shoe collection. please give a warm welcome to peniel jospeh. [applause] >> thank you for that warm introduction and i will start by thanking the library of congress and the national book festival for this invitation to talk about "stokely: a life." it is an honor and a privilege to be here. i have received a lot of questions as to why and why did i spend so much time and why did he deserve a dog o

martin luther king, jr., and others. we met with the leadership on both sides of the capital, house leadership, senate leadership, democrats, and republicans. if you have an opportunity to visit my office in the cannon house building, you will see a photograph of that morning with dr. martin luther king, jr., roy wilkins, rabbi prince, eugene carson blake, britney young, and young john lewis. [laughter] talking with the republican leader. if someone had told me then that one day i would be standing here in statuary hall being honored by the united states capitol historical society, i would have told them, "you're crazy, you're out of your mind, you don't even know what you're talking about." each time i come into this place -- and i have been here a while. i have been in congress for almost 28 years. i feel more than lucky. i feel blessed. each day i am here, i learn more and more about the significance of this building, the paintings, the statues, the different rooms. sometimes i feel these statues are speaking to me an

martin luther king jr. was in fact, in his own time, a proponent of what we now call affirmative action. >> host: randall kennedy is standing out here in the miami heat with us. we appreciate that very much. we've got more phone calls if you would like. >> guest: absolutely. >> host: marcel in goodyear, arizona. marcel. >> caller: thank you, mr. kennedy. i have one question for you. do you think it has benefited the african-american people at all? i work for the federal government and i see the federal government is the biggest violation of racism. you know, when i am when i am there working and i see the number of african-americans employed by the federal government, if you're in washington d.c. or baltimore area, there's a lot more african-americans that are promoted up in hierarchy positions. but if you go maybe to the south and the west, that is not the case. so as out here on the west kind of struggle with the fact that in city government, federal government, we are not getting promoted to the level we

martin luther king, jr. and amended piece in the face of war -- demanded peace in the face of war, solidarity in the face of division, and love in the face of hate. that was in a time of injustice done against american and -- african americans who felt the american system was lost. they felt it would be easier to tear down the structure of the old. for all of america's shortcomings, john lewis stood with those demanding the promise of america not be discarded but instead realized in full by being purified in practice. inlewis said to the crowd 1963 during the march on washington, he wanted the people to protest across the nation. comes, untilreedom the revolution of 1776 was complete." the designs and principles of our founders are good, though our nation fell short for far too long. we honor john lewis today, not as a revolutionary, but as one, to paraphrase dr. king, came to cash the check the architects of our republic wrote, the promissory note demanding every american is guaranteed the right of liberty,

martin luther king, martin luther king, his house bombed, and yet -- maybe missed it in their write little or speeches or sermons, they never went after or particularly targeted law enforcement officials. even those who were racist at the time and then clearly were gunning for them. very, very different today, obviously. but today it's just the opposite, and so far it's -- sharpton or others who draw that divide with the african-american community and make them suspicious of officers. sometimes -- they do feel that this is the case bass they keep hearing that is the case. what do you tell them? >> well, one scripture my uncle, m.l., and my dad, a.d., were very fond of, and they believed it, was the blessed are the peacemakers. jesus speaking to the attitudes. even if i they were here today, from the business perspective, since this is fox business channel -- >> fox news but you can say whatever you want because you're a woman of god and we'll make it. so continue. >> okay. but listen, honestly, economically, i have talked to officers and lawmakers and many are now admitting they have a quo

vernon johns was my husband's mentor, and he brought martin luther king to my house in montgomery. ernon was coming as our guest minister, and martin was coming as the guest preacher. he rode down from atlanta to montgomery with martin, anne martin dropped reverend johns off and my house. i had prepared dinner for him. i knew what he liked. ralph tried to get martin to stay for dinner, and vernon told him, man, you've got to stay here. where you're going, i love the food is going to be as good as what juanita is cooking. he said, you should stay here and eat. he said, no, they are prepared for me. i have to go on. that is when i met him, when martin came to preach his initial sermon. my husband had met him when he was a student at a you working on his -- at au working on his masters. ralph had a date with a young lady and made a date with a young lady, and she told him -- she canceled the date and told him that she was ill. my husband went on anyway to the affair, and the young lady appeared at the affair with martin luther king. [laughter] that was his initial meeting with that you

of him doing an audition for martin luther king.i'm going to tell you the truth it's really good but it's not there yet. you're not there yet. i would like to do what i can do help you get there. >> reporter: oprah certainly did. the film has earned four golden globe awards. but oprah found its biggest challenge in its director after other directors all men turned it down. what did you see in her that stood out? >> what she's able the do is make every person like you're special, valued and your being here really matters to the film. >> reporter: while she brings the pivotal moment in history to life on screen, off screen, she's hoping to make history herself and indeed she has, she's the first after can american woman to be nominated for golden globe for best director. has it sunk in now? >> it has. it's fun. it's bringing attention to the film which is the most important thing. >> reporter: you're very quick to point to others who paved the way. >> it's bittersweet. my mother is very happy. but certainly i know that i'm not the fir

martin luther king jr. just one day after thousands marched in new york and washington protesting police brutality. i spoke to some of the actors and producer oprah winfrey, who talked about the lessons of selma. >> when you see this film, i understand how strategic and how rigorous the discipline was. and how there was an intentional goal set by the leadership to accomplish the right to vote. and they were relentless in their efforts to do that. but there was a strategy behind it. it wasn't just we're out marching but we don't know what we're marching for. it was -- that's the beauty of this film. >> ava really wanted to make sure the women of the civil rights movement were represented in this film. so often we don't hear them, we don't know their faces or what they did. >> i think this movie exemplifies that idea that we as a people, when our voices are joined as one, it could be the most powerful tool and the powerful statement we can make to fight injustice. >> "selma" is directed by ava duvernay who jus

martin luther king was eloquent. look where we are and where we can be. he wanted everyone to have an opportunity, if you work for it. judge my by my character. if i can live up to it i want to advance. al sharpton says forget about the open doors, go burn something down. >> i always think of that incident in 1956 where his house was fire bombed. there was a gang gathering outside the house avenue afterwards who wanted vengeance. he told them to stop. his family was almost killed. there would be many other incidents. sadly, one that ended hids life. he urged the opposite of the thing al sharpton doesn't like. >> because dr. king and many leaders in this country today know this, whether it's charles or religious leaders, they know that violence turns an ear to need to listen deaf. the people stop listening. they will ignore a situation when people turn to violence. it ends the discussion. what's happened this past week in new york city and other cities, people are protesting. protests are disruptive. we were talking, you could hear protests in the streets.

even my wonderful uncle, martin luther king, my dad, his brother, they did their part, but they did not single handedly end anything during their lifetime. we're still dealing with these human issues today. and so i believe that the attorney general should take our invitation to sit down with others, many others of us. they were saying that this was the first kind of event of its kind at ebb kneeser baptist church in atlanta. i would suggest that they go back and look at president kennedy and uncle m.l. and different types of things that have occurred throughout human history. >> that's an extraordinary stage upon which to stand and be overly full of one's self and

martin luther king jr.some way, we seem to be sending a great many of our young leaders to their early graves. >> it's been a very emotional period for all of us who have worked for the senator. and personally, the most horrifying thing in these last few days was this morning, when i tacked this black ribbon on to my campaign button, because now i'm lost. i'm desperate. and i don't know where we're going from here. >> when senator kennedy went down, he was trying to speak for those americans, including the young, who feel a need to change many aspects of american life. well, that cause has not been still forever, because even without him, the changes will be made, because they have to be. but nobody knows when, nor how, nor whether the changes will be made peacefully or violently. >> in the meantime, this country has lost another leader. as far as i'm concerned, has lost the only leader that i feel gives us any hope for the future. i mean, what happens to the country? i mean, you wonder if it's worth saving

martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement.t lebaneser baptist, eric holder's wrap-up led him to declare that he would end racial profiling forever, but he apparently forgot, president george w. bush had already done that. he did it in 2001, declaring that racial profiling was wrong. the president more than a decade ago ordered the prohibition of racial profiling all together by federal law enforcement. how nice it would have been for the attorney general to acknowledge all of the shoulders upon which he was standing as he took the stage last night. perhaps grace that wouldn't suit the obama white house brand of political >>> tonight on war stories. soldiers on skis. >> we are an experimental unit. >> the brave men who took on the german army high in the mountains of italy. >> everything had to be attacked going up the hill. >> including senator bob dole, who near ly paid with his life. >> would have to get my radio, hit first and felt a sting in my right shoulder. >> america's tenth mountain division. >>> i'm oliver north and

martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement.lebaneser baptist, eric holder's wrap-up led him to declare that he would end racial profiling forever, but he apparently forgot, president george w. bush had already done that. he did it in 2001, declaring that racial profiling was wrong. the president more than a decade ago ordered the prohibition of racial profiling all together by federal law enforcement. how nice it would have been for the attorney general to acknowledge all of the shoulders upon which he was standing as he took the stage last night. perhaps grace that wouldn't suit the obama white house brand of political >>> tonight on "war stories" -- >> nobody intended to come back. >> december 7th, 1941. the japanese unleashed a secret weapon, midget submarines. >> we thought it was a german u-boat. >> a lone destroyer sank a midget submarine an hour before the air attack on pearl harbor. >> we've got a midget sub. >> now its discovery is rewriting history. >> this probably is important. >> tonight we prove the first casualti

martin luther king. civil rights activist and niece of . lou: disrupting the work and lives of millions this afternoon. a major cable failure as the utilities put, it knocked out power creating an absolute nightmare forcing all of detroit's public schools to close early, stranding countless numbers of people on elevators and passengers on the detroit people mover. multiple government buildings and fire stations affected. local power has been restored to about a third of the customers affected. six years after he took office and weeks after announcing his resignation, attorney general eric holder now claims he has a plan to end racial profiling. >> in the coming days, i will announce updated justice department guidance regarding profiling by federal law enforcement. this will institute rigorous new standards and robust safeguards to help end racial profiling once and for all. lou: attorney general holder made it announcement at ebenezer baptist church in atlanta where martin luther king, jr. preached and led the civil rights movement. joinin

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martin luther king. great to have you here. as we hear this president charge this entire country with being racist, we hear bill clinton with his nonsense, i consider it nonsense, his wife carrying out the drumbeat of racial exploitation, what are your thoughts? >> i am hearing these voices that are proclaiming racism from the heights of the united states of america and that's disturbing to me. there is racism in america and many of us have experienced it but america is not racist. the reason i really say that, lou, we have an african-american president, a man with brown skin, and many many caucasians voted for him. so how must they feel now to be told you're racist? now, we voted for you, president obama, but i'm a racist? that's bothering me. >> his attorney general retreated into the shadows for several years, now has emerged talking about racial animus as the reason that many of us criticize the policies of this president. these are scoundrels, in my opinion, seeking refuge in race rather than taking, assuming responsibilit

martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement.lebaneser baptist, eric holder's wrap-up led him to declare that he would end racial profiling forever, but he apparently forgot, president george w. bush had already done that. he did it in 2001, declaring that racial profiling was wrong. the president more than a decade ago ordered the prohibition of racial profiling all together by federal law enforcement. how nice it would have been for the attorney general to acknowledge all of the shoulders upon which he was standing as he took the stage last night. perhaps grace that wouldn't suit the obama white house brand of the obama white house brand of political for cindy crawford's meaningful beauty advanced. the obama white house brand of political (female narrator) with special appearances by debra messing, valerie bertinelli, sara rue, and garcelle beauvais. (male narrator) hosted by cat deeley. brought to you by guthy-renker. hello there, i'm cat deeley here in beverly hills inviting you to come along as i take you to meet one of the

martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement.baneser baptist, eric holder's wrap-up led him to declare that he would end racial profiling forever, but he apparently forgot, president george w. bush had already done that. he did it in 2001, declaring that racial profiling was wrong. the president more than a decade ago ordered the prohibition of y federal law enforcement. how nice it would have been for the attorney general to acknowledge all of the shoulders upon which he was standing as he took the stage last night. perhaps grace that wouldn't suit the obama white house brand of political theatre. and that's too bad. thanks for being with us. [ dynamic music plays ]

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martin luther king preached and led the civil rights movement.ezer baptist the climactic wrap-up led him to declare he would end racial profiling forever. of political theater, and that's too bad. thank you for being with us. neil: welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. al sharpton is his advisor on keeping people calm. eric holder is his attorney general. and an environmentalist collective wall against building keystone. i'm telling you, with the rest of us. wake up, folks. the president is making a hard charge to the left. and my friend steve forbes knows it. this is he pretty amazing. it's doubling down on this. he's maybe showing his true colors, but so much for the

on this page, which is april 12, 1963, we see here, this is the date martin luther king was arrested. with him here is his associate and good friend, ralph abernathy. like all of the demonstrators they are arrested for violating section 1159 of the city code, which is parading without a permit. this is the famous photo from that day. this was taken just moments before they were arrested. i'm often asked by students, since the three of them are in the photo, why reverend shuttlesworth name is not on the jail document. it actually is on a different page. but this photo and this document really straight the dynamics what was going on with the sil rights leaders. shuttlesworth invited king to come to birmingham but shuttles worth was much was the leader of the movement here. and the leaders on this particular day did not want shuttleworth arrested. they wanted him to stay out of jail to organize more demonstrations but shuttleworth did not want martin luther king to be the sole face of the movement. so shuttlesworth took part. birmingham police knew where to find him so they went and arre

martin luther king junior. >> i want to know what it's like to whimsel in that man's shoes. >> it wasough. i felt the burden, i felt the weight. and there was a spiritual exchange. i had soalk given myself over t him that a faear of death reall crept up on me. >> this 1965 footage showing confrontation between marchers and police painstakingly created by the director who admits thes had some inspiration on that day. >> survivors of that march came out and marched with us, put themselves through it again with horses coming at them, tiear g coming at them, puts themselves in that situation again to tell that story. >> sellma al stars -- >> why pay the same person twice? because she was so different at that point. there'sso a weariness. that was why i wanted to do it again. >> i have seen the gl glory, hallelujah. >> very interesting to see all of those similarities and also mind blowingory, it's been 51 y since martin luther king's i have a dream speech and we have to deal with race issues in this country. >> we're always going to deal with race issues, hopefully we can move forward. pr

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martin luther king jr. was raised, where he worked.s a result of that, his message had always been nonviolent. he worked for an entire civil rights movement. and of course, it is the belief that movement is very vital today and still very much connected to events regarding ferguson. but it is the message of nonviolence that you can expect to be reiterated tonight. we also anticipate, he could update the federal probes underway in ferguson. that being, revolving around the case of the brown shooting as well as looking at the police practices of the ferguson police department. >> all right. thank you very much. we do hope that he will be giving a very direct and clear update on the federal investigation. into the michael brown shooting. joining me now, martin luther king iii and democrat everything committee woman from ferguson. i appreciate you both being with me. the president today talked about. this he said, look, there have been commissions on race and these issues before. he acknowledged they haven't worked and he said it will be d

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martin luther king junior in a new film. it is called "selma" it follows the civil rights marches of selma alabama that lead to the passage of the voting rights act of 1965. the movie arrived at a particularly timely moment in this country. the events in ferguson missouri the death of eric garner and race incidents, these remarks made by powerful figures in hollywood have brought race to the front of the conversation in america. here's the trailer for "selma" >>> he's got orders detroit new york los angeles. >> and fighting large scale arrests and sympathy marches. >> i'm very aware of that, mr. hoover. what i do know is nonviolent. what i need to know right now -- >> what is martin luther king about to do next. >> mr. president, dr. king is here. >> mr. president, in the south there have been thousands of racially motivated murders. >> we need your help dr. king this thing is going to have to wait. >> it cannot wait. >> you have one big issue i have 101. >> selma it is. >> here in this great battle. >> selma is the place. >

it's significant because it's the first time martin luther king jr.ver been portrayed on screen. there aren't many women making movies ant definitely not that many of color. one thing she did i found powerful, not that it's just moving and couldn't be more timely of what's going on in america, is she really cast a light on the people who were also part of the movie not just martin luther king, but also the women who were involved, some of the other people involved. >> here's a short clip. this is martin luther king in a selma church. >> those that have gone before us say no more! >> no more! that means protest! that means march! that means disturb the peace! that means jails! that means risk! >> brown: he came up to both of you when we asked about great performances of the year. dana, another one you mentioned was timothy spall playing joseph turner in "mr. turner." let's look at a short clip of that first and then you tell us about it. >> would you look out of the window. >> what am i looking at? the tip of your nose to the bridge and your brow, you

martin luther king said hate can not drive out hate. only god can do that.o reciprocate hate with hate in a situation like does no one any good. from your community, from police, nowhere. it does no good. you're going to have to change your sense of direction. you're going to have to capture revelation, from god. because it's him that you're going to have to get direction from, because you cannot do it on your own agenda. look what happened in ferguson. these people showed the ugliness that was in their hearts to the nation, to the community, to themselves. now if you look back it's a ghost town over there. why? because of something you did. and that goes to what i'm saying, just connect the dots. examination. i'm just telling you to examine yourself. that's it. 1 corinthians 11:2, 2 corinthians 13-5. i could do this all day long. >> i would have no way of checking your accuracy, so i won't bother. >> please do. >> i'm kidding. but i will ask you this in all seriousness, and i always think that when we see protests, that they -- they're said to speak for eve

with martin luther king jr. reminding them of his dream, richmond tries to make it a reality. >> we do it for mike brown. >> reporter: young and old, civilian and police stood side by side. starting at 10:00 a.m. >> 10:00 a.m. is when mike brown was actually shot and killed. and his body layed on the ground for 4-1/2 hours. >> reporter: so they stood for 4-1/2 hours. no rocks or tear gas. >> i'll take a bite first. >> reporter: but plenty of pepperoni pizza to go around. >> because eventually we want to get to a place that's healing where we can all work and live together. >> reporter: and continue to build community. >> you have to work together. >> reporter: in richmond, noelle walker, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> those protests and freeway closures weren't just an inconvenience for some they created a medical emergency. adriana torrez gave birth to a healthy 8-pound baby girl. she was in labor headed to san francisco general when she got stuck on interstate 80 after protesters closed the freeway in both direction

martin luther king jr. strategize during the civil rights movement. >> no peace! >> he is watching protests over the police killings of michael brown and eric garner with pers. >> jobs helped restore calms in the 60s and can ease tension today. >> kids who were normally in the street doing nothing. ended up putting on a shirt and tie going to corporations which you know what nay learned there. they learned that they were just as smar as thet as these rich w folk. >> people part of a community are less lake tee to destroy it. the former ambassador off to the united nations. also says more investment in police departments will reduce bad policing. >> you have to reform the police. by, by training them better. by integrating them more. more minorities. more women. more hispanics. you have to have a police force that looks like your community. >> young suggests paying police more so they can live where they serve. >> i am at least inspired. >> executive director of the eracism foundation is working to change altitude but believes his approach makes sense. you can't mi