people will go on debating jackie kennedy or martin luther king are benjamin franklin as a biographical figure. but the ideals are what endure. host: carl anthony, let me let you listen to one last piece with jackie kennedy. we heard about the cuban missile crisis. this is about the bay of pigs. >> i remember so well that that happened, whatever the a was, it was in the morning. he came back to the white house. he started to cry. but just with maine, he put his head in his hands and wept. i have only seen him cry about three times. twice the winter he was sick, but tears would roll down his cheek. and then that time. and then when patrick, when we came back from the hospital, and he walked in one morning about 8:00 in my room, he stopped and put his arms around it. and it was so sad, because all of his dreams, and for this awful thing to happen, and he cared so much. he did not care about is 100 days, but for this poor man. with all the hopes and promises, and they were shot down like adults. he cared so much about them. host: in our remaining minute, what did you take away from that an

martin luther king are do not love one another king, he is a central and important and more than legitimate figure who represents the truth and integrity of the fight for civil rights. you know, benjamin franklin often a great example of a guy, maybe benjamin franklin did not have some ideal puritanical light, but he embodied principles on a much larger scale and symbolize