ian paisley and martin mcguinness. the odd couple and politics produced a few years of on time budgets, agreed upon help when martin mcguinness in the first storm government where sheamus mellen represented they totally nonviolent. republican side. martin mcguinness was the education minister and stunned them. by first recommending increased funding for the poor schools. and the unionist community. and he proved that he would be fair. and i think that that triggered something. and everybody else, including eventually and paisley, and they wound up just working things out. look ah, i don't know any government where everybody agrees on everything. but if you can take these big divides and say we're ground 70% 80% of the things and we're going to do those things. i think that made a huge difference. so that's why all of us hope the government will come up against because it has worked when it's been up. what do you think? i mean, when you look at this blueprint, why do you think it hasn't worked elsewhere, for instance, l

martin mcguinness said to me. one time he never thought he'd see the day when...asn't well and he'd be saying his prayers that he'd be ok. | it did show that we had really travelled. - it's notable that so many people involved in the story are no longer here — ian paisley, martin mcguinness, john hume, david trimble. the piece isn't perfect, power—sharing at stormont has frequently been prone to collapse and, in recent years, it has often been absent. but, political balance is now extremely rare and that is the achievement the agreement generation is passing on. the legacy is that we got peace and we stopped the killing. you had leaders that were prepared even at personal, political risk to face down inaudible ., , and move forward. and, you know, that is why it is a lesson for peace processes everywhere. we're going to play you a video of two people who were born on 10 april 1998. i'm interested to hear what you make— of what they have to say about the northern ireland they have grown up in. yeah, i am very grateful that leaders in their fields came to northern i

martin mcguinness said to me one time he never thought he'd see i the day when..n wasn't well and he'd be _ saying his prayers - that ian would be ok. and it did show that we had really travelled. . it's notable that so many people involved in the story are no longer here — ian paisley, martin mcguinness, john hume, david trimble. the peace isn't perfect, power—sharing at stormont has frequently been prone to collapse and, in recent years, it has often been absent. but political violence is now extremely rare, and that's the achievement the agreement generation is passing on. the legacy is that we got peace and we stopped the killing. you had leaders that were prepared even at personal, political risk to face down the recalcitrant elements in their own party and move forward. and, you know, that is why it's a lesson for peace processes everywhere. we're going to play you a video of two people who were born on 10 april 1998. i'm interested to hear what you make of what they have to say about the northern ireland they have grown up in. yeah, i'm very grateful that l

you showed those pictures earlier of the queen and martin mcguinness.t it's not over then, and that was what was wrong. the work didn't continue. the british and irish governments were both too hands off, and that needs to change because some heads need not get parliament back working. some heads need not get parliament back working-— some heads need not get parliament back working. jayne, mary says heads should be knocked _ back working. jayne, mary says heads should be knocked together. - back working. jayne, mary says heads should be knocked together. i- back working. jayne, mary says heads should be knocked together. i have i should be knocked together. i have heard that phrase a few times on the streets of belfast. there was a huge amount of frustration. you streets of belfast. there was a huge amount of frustration.— amount of frustration. you will hear that wherever _ amount of frustration. you will hear that wherever you _ amount of frustration. you will hear that wherever you go _ amount of frustration. you will hear that wherever you go in _ a

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that brought the fiery unionist extremist in paisley to join with the fiery ex-ira commander martin mcguinnessrule happily together. it is broken down since, and it does need renewed focus. but seeing the figures from the incredible agreement, not just tony blair and bill clinton, but the irish prime minister at the time, the president of the european union, because this was an agreement that brought together not just the irish government and the british government in a way they had never been before after decades, generations of distrust, which had a lady in history between -- laid deep in history between the island of ireland and the united kingdom, but also brussels and washington, d.c., because there was an internationally underpinned agreement. to see those figures from the past -- rather grayer hair, like me -- nevertheless signifying what is possible through negotiation, and now the additional hurdle of getting self-government back up and running. christian: as you say, when you were there, you had to negotiate with reverend ian paisley, who could be quite feisty at times, maybe a lot s

way back to welcoming dr paisley to the capital of the united states, sat in between he and martin mcguinnessionship that goes back to even the late 1980s. i think the part of the story that needs to be told is that for the unionist tradition, they are always welcome to these meetings in washington and if we have a disagreement, i don't think that the disagreement ought to stand in the way of what the electorate did. well, yeah, but it does. i hate to break it to you, i don't want to be cruel, but... you're not breaking it to me, believe me! ..the current leader of the democratic unionist party, jeffrey donaldson, said this after you visited northern ireland in may last year. he described yours as, "the most undiplomatic visit i've ever "seen to these shores". he said that the language you used displayed an alarming ignorance of the concerns of unionism. so, you know, you, joe biden and people like you are simply not trusted by the unionist side. well, i would say that's very different in private, and that is to point out that i had a drink with sirjeffrey when he was in washington. we posed

there is martin mcguinness from sinn fein.an irish catholic will visit belfast next wednesday to mark the anniversary. but he won't be addressing the northern ireland assembly which is still suspended with the democratic unionist party refusing to sit in government because they're unhappy with the trading arrangements after brexit. so a quarter of a century after the agreement political tensions and obstacles are still present as our ireland correspondent emma vardy reports. news of the troubles in northern ireland became a nightly refrain during the decades of bloodshed. explosion. a huge ira bomb rocks central belfast. the aftermath of another bomb in an northern ireland high street. 27 soldiers are still in hospital. i rememberjust being struck by the sense of tension in the city. you had barbed wire everywhere, soldiers everywhere. when you went there, you felt the presence of conflict. republican armed groups waged a campaign of violence to try to bring about the end of northern ireland as part of the uk, and loyalists at

so we had these very big names, gerry adams, martin mcguinness, mcwilliams and all the others, who areres. all the others, who are seriously majorfigures. and most importantly could bring their counties and their communities with them. and the fact that they were able and had to mix with each other, day in and day out, sometimes for hours on end, meant that gradually and very slowly, trust was built up. confidence was built up and they started talking to each other in a way they could never have done had they not been forced into this as it were a hothouse of talks that had been going on for nearly two years. that meant they were dealing with each other as people, as individuals, not simply as names and that was a huge difference in terms of what previous peace attempts had been attempted. indeed, i've been over the world, the philippines, sri lanka and elsewhere talking about the northern ireland peace process and my main theme was you cannot make peace part time. these were full—time negotiators, spending all their time, literally, week in and week out, meeting with each other to com

symbolism, both big and small, and perhaps one of the biggest one ever was ten years ago when martin mcguinnessd never have imagined that happening. it did indeed ten years ago. tonight, we will see the performance of a play called agreement. it looks at the complex, tense, difficult negotiations that happened. i'm delighted to say that it with me here is patrick, becky and with all today clear. lovely to have you all, and great to see you both. what preconceptions did you bring to the theatre, to this performance when you're cast? i had different views because i've lived through the good friday agreement, but i suppose the piece itself in the view of what may or may not have been said in the room. whether i did have user not, i concentrated more on those views rather than trying to... gerry adams, which i still did, and working with the rhythm thatjerry has, and that's what i'm trying to do on stage. has, and that's what i'm trying to do on stage-— has, and that's what i'm trying to do on stage. how did you prepare, patrick? like — do on stage. how did you prepare, patrick? like packy _ do on

and talk to everybody and their remember and jerry will remember the first meeting i had with martin mcguinness at the time this was very shocking to people. you had to be prepared to do it and i remember after i did it and the people here were called us this after i had met him for the first time i then went to a shopping center for a visit. you made and then you go for a visit. i told you about this last night. when i got to the shopping center i was saying hello to people and so on and suddenly this huge waive of people, including people who were wearing washing up gloves. and last time i had seen someone where these was my mom. they are all coming to this. what sort of a protest is as this but it's all to do with the fact that i shouldn't have been shaking hands with jerry produces a big thing you see. there was a huge debate yes he can meet him but you can't shake hands with him. let's just do what you would do one human being to another. we know we disagree about a lot. let's a lot but that's safer if we can agree about the future and i visited the loyalist prisoners and all of these thin

gerry adams and martin mcguinness persuaded republicans to join a constitutional power—sharing assemblystatecraft sees the historic opportunity. at a critical moment he recognised unionist concerns over the proposed north and south arrangements and stepped back. david trimble himself in his last public appearance at this universityjust weeks before he passed away and embraced his old counterpart and thanked bertie for giving him the space to act. these acts of courage were more powerful than a thousand bombs and bullets. there is nothing glamorous about violence. there is nothing glorious about terror. squalid acts are always justified with some false dream about what they will achieve, but they have never worked and they never will. applause. never worked and they never will. applause— applause. instead, let's glorify moderation _ applause. instead, let's glorify moderation and _ applause. instead, let's glorify moderation and romanticise, . applause. instead, let's glorify - moderation and romanticise, respect and make heroes of those with the courage to reject absolutes, not kill for

, there, martin mcguinness, shakhd— there, martin mcguinness, shaking hands— there, martin mcguinness the people who— course, there are all the people who haven-t— course, there are all the people who haven't been— course, there are all the people who haven't been invited, like the queens— who haven't been invited, like the queen's bridesmaids and various people— the queen's bridesmaids and various people like that. and the— various people like that. and ttke you. — various people like that. and like you. well— various people like that. and like you. well ,_ various people like that. and like you. �*fd�*rttt t t like you. well, but like sarah ferguson , i mean, ferguson is ferguson, i mean, ferguson is a very good example. you know, of that. i very good example. you know, of that. . sad-t— very good example. you know, of that. . ooh-t he— very good example. you know, of that. i can't be easy— rtg �*2 t rtxrst you know, of that. i can't be easy having to draw— that. i can't be easy having to draw up— that. i can't be easy having to draw up that— that. i can't be easy having to draw up

martin mcguinness, who had been sworn enemies all their lives. shing up germans, i thought the oldies were silly for involved in the for getting involved in the thing and but of course with the older people . yeah, that that older people. yeah, that that those those hatreds and they go back right to the, the, the reformation of the english church back in tudor times those , those, those those residue those those hatreds and that that resentment does stick and that's what has to be overcome . that's what has to be overcome. um, and until until at the governance of northern ireland is sorted out and, and the, the ulster assembly is up and running again. there will be those tensions. there's no getting around it. it is a difficult time— getting around it. it is a difficult time ,- gill“ 2g 22 c it is a difficult time , especially at difficult time, especially at tne— difficult time, especially at the moment— difficult time, especially at the moment in— difficult time, especially at the moment in northern ireland, isn-t— the moment in northern ireland

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