has hit its lowest recorded point since the pandemic in the last 3 the fsb's national chair martin mctaguejoins me now. is it as bleak as those numbers suggest? is it - as bleak as those numbers suggest?— is it - as bleak as those numbers suggest? numbers, suggest?" " it seems numbers suggest?" " it seems bleak. we is. it seemsverybleak. we levels at recorded confidence levels at 64.5 on our index. that minus 64.5 on our index. that was down over 40 points from previous quarter. so, fl -tt 7 this is the lowest 152113; [edeliie'v'éi ' ' know, this is the lowest level we have seen this index at llvqjjfive seen this index at the pandemic. it is not since the pandemic. it is not a narrow problem, it seems just a narrow problem, it seems to affect sectors across the you economy. however, you know there are some stand out bad performers, food services and are really bad. have seen big in we have seen big falls in construction. so this is quite a bleak picture and more than half of said half of small businesses said they their seams to they expected their seams to drop —— sales to drop next year and tha