i'm going to start with martin olsson. in your testimony you address the technical assistance for entrepreneurs in tribal communities. you point out some room for improvement, to say the least. one of the deficiencies that you point out is some of the folks responsible for technical assistance may not have any business experience themselves which i find unfortunate. and that may be an understatement too. can you give me an idea who these folks work for? do they work for government agencies, are they private technical assistance folks, or -- >> we have in the our area at least we do have some contract providers of technical assistance, and we also have some tribal employees who are providing technical assistance under some of the tribal business entities. um, please, don't misunderstand me that theme that i know -- the people that i know and work with are highly dedicated, they work hard, they're really trying to do what they're charged to do. but, unfortunately, at least on the area i'm familiar with you have a lot of smal