. >> but curator martin ramirez believes zoos have a duty to breed new elephants and sanctuaries are meant for the animals to live out their days, not procreate. >> there you go, perfect! >> ramirez hopes that providing an up close and personal experience will inspire everyone to join the effort to save the elephants. >>> turning now to the pope - he was chosen to lead the catholic church less than two years ago. as pope francis he led a revolution, his statements on the poor, homosexuals, divorced, catholics, sex abuse scandal and evolution have been received warmly outside the church, but not necessarily on the inside. a correspondent from a main newspaper and author of "pope francis, life and revolution", joins us in new york. a pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you. >> you were a friend of his. he called you within 12 hours of being named pope, and two hours later on your birthday. he has been criticized by some for calling people, paying his own bills, living simply, not in the papal palaces. you came up with a wonderful expression to criticize his critics, that it's the sc