evidence here and had gone to dbi and demonstrated that with the survey like the last surveyier, martin ron did, we wouldn't have this discussion, because the information that is in front of us surveyed states in your own package states it's not. i need to see -- my point is that the footings are not in the devisidaro street properties. i haven't seen any evidence in the package to demonstrate. other than you have done a survey that is not in the package, right? >> no i'm not explaining myself clearly, the decision was, the martin ron, survey itself we look at the martin ron survey for this location it shows it's over the line on the survey meaning, he himself is showing the wall over the line what is the necessity to show further when their own surveyier showed it over the line. >> two feet up. >> two feet up. >> if we marked the walls, we would have showed abcd we would have found the same locations and found the same results. >> did you take measurements at the base of the wall. >> no, you have to take them up a little bit because of obstructions along the wall we can take hundreds of measur