claiming infringements if other branding could cause consumer confusion i just got off the own with martin sorrellng company in the world, and i asked sir martin if he thinks musk should expect lawsuits on this. >> if i was using x, i probably would, yes. it's such a common symbol, as you say, he's bound to get significant litigation activity in terms of its use. >> so possibly more lawsuits, more controversial. what does this mean for brand value given that users in the market, this seems like a sudden pivot overnight from the iconic bluebird and tweeting to the x symbol. get used to that, liz. some put the brand degradation somewhere between $4-20 billion. remember that twitter is only worth $15 billion now according to fidelity, just a third of what musk paid for it. >> the brand has been affected. it has been diminished. it's not worth $# 4 billion -- 44 billion anymore, it may not be worth even half that figure. but if he repots it, rebrands it, repositions it and and can gain traction in these other areas, it's a way through. >> conversations with brand experts, they say if there's one entre