martin van buren, vice president, defeats daniel webster in the 1836 election. but martin van buren, he runs into some troubles. a new financial panic sweeps the country. the panic of 1837. all those pet banks, those state banks that receive those federal deposits, use those deposits pyramid from them, create new credit, over speculation in western land, creates a happened bubble, the bubble pops in 1837, the democrats become extremely unpopular across the country, now it's the whigs turn. the whigs have their chance. in 1840 the whigs run against martin van buren. maybe they will run henry clay. the whigs say we'll play it safe. could have been less war heros. the hero of the battle of tippy canoe in 1811. william harrison, well to be safe, we're also going to put on harrison's ticket a democrat, a democrat who is very critical of jackson. john tyler, who is a virginia planter, a jeffersonian, but thought jackson again was too king-like. and so we'll throw a democrat on there. that's going to make this a safe, moderate ticket. no problem here. and they were righ

artan van buren defeats daniel webster. -- martin van buren defeats daniel webster. van buren runs into some troubles -- a new financial panic sweeps the country. the panic of 1837. all those pet banks, the state banks that received those federal deposits, used those deposits, over speculation and western land, there was a land bubble. the bubble popped in 1837. the democrats become extremely unpopular across the country. now it is the whigs'turn. in 1840, the whigs run against martin van buren. the whigs say they will play a test run a war hero. the hero of the battle of typical new -- tippecanoe in 1811, william henry harrison. we're also going to put on harrison's ticket a democrat. a democrat who was very critical of jackson, john tyler, who is a virginia planter. he was a jeffersonian, but thought jackson was to king like -- too king like. they were right. look at that landslide for the whigs. they overwhelmingly win the election. the first time, they control the house, the senate, the presidency. henry clay rubbing his hands. he is ready to go. william henry har

the democrat will not win massachusetts unless a third party candidate by the name of martin van buren, who is running a ticket thatt, was created to oppose zachary taylor, he is trying to convince them that yes, this is a great thing, but martin van buren can't win and zachary taylor can win. so we need to make sure that we vote for zachary taylor to keep this guy out of the white house. what is interesting lincoln goes , to the philadelphia convention that nominates zachary taylor. it is in pennsylvania, it is his first trip. he had the chance to go to independence hall, just like many of you have been able to do. abraham lincoln does a lot of things in this book like we have done as tourists. lincoln goes to mount vernon as a tourist. like many of us, he goes and pays respects to george washington. it is not a national park at the time, but he is there and the nephew of george washington is custodian of the grounds and he pays his respects to the first president, just like many of us have done. so he needs a lot of the future people at the convention who will be important. a gentlem

>> jesse: i would be the vice president for martin van buren. >> juan: why? >> jesse: i don't know.uan: i'm sure you would have been quite a character and not period. as the fire i am quite a character now. >> juan: i didn't mean anything by that. >> dana: i would have to say george washington. >> juan: why is that? >> dana: i have always loved him. i would have liked to have gotten to know him. history, perhaps, portrays him as something greater even than he was in person but i think he was quite a remarkable person. i would have loved to have helped. >> juan: father of our nation. gregory. >> greg: richard nixon. >> kimberly: a chance of getting to be president? [laughter] >> greg: he wouldn't expect much of me. i would step in, get to hang out. >> jesse: he's not nixon. >> kimberly: be there with a walking stick. >> jesse: i would have changed the world and i would have prevd president carter. from being elected. i would have been reelected, there would have been no carter. the american rebirth would have happened sooner. then, they wouldn't have been ronald reagan because i woul

always the president then martin van buren junior and lincoln had his two secretary. staff. they almost always has been political animals. he's going to a general. it is more than just discipline in the west wing. if john sununu can do that, james baker, but they can also get bills passed. this is a general. that tells me something. cheryl: at the same time it's been well documented the trouble president trump is tied with messaging mother of his through previous or sean spicer, both who are now gone. the surprise announcement that reince priebus was departing. some critics saying it doesn't matter who they chief of staff is because it comes down to the president and how he would handle things. you think kelly can possibly bring him in? >> i don't think the president wants to be reined in. i don't think that will be john kelly's job. he's a soldier. he's going to take orders, but he may bring discipline to make further down. that is part of his job is to get those bills through congress. reince priebus may have been underestimated a little bit. the trip to the middle

ticket with him when he ran for re-election and became the eighth president of the united states, martin van buren couldn't win with andrew jackson. >> neil: amazing. one of the things i ask about with this stuff, we're so startled about donald trump and in your face. you mentioned this with andrew jackson with his own cabinet. but jackson had a pretty successful presidency, you'd agree with that. how do you think this is going? it's a bumpy six months. that's an understatement. >> i don't know. andrew jackson landed on his feet. he had the war with his own cabinet. he started meeting with informal advisers in the back room of the white house. it leaked. they called it the kitchen cabinet. they said this is unconstitutional, this is outrageous. every president has had a kitchen cabinet since. there's no guarantees here. it didn't work for lyndon johnson. he became isolated from the people. you can brow beat the senate and the cabinet. if you lose the people, you lose. jackson hung on to the popular people. if donald trump can hang on to that base, maybe he can make it, too. >> neil: and i think ab

and other presidents andrew jackson, martin van buren, franklin roosevelt, abraham lincoln and particularlyn f. kennedy have had family members in the white house in the cabinet or highly placed and they depended on them and so should trump. >> all right. guys, moving on, conservative columnist fox news contributor charles krauthammer he said that donald trump jr.'s e-mails are proof of attempted collusion. >> i don't think it's illegal. i don't think anyone is claiming it's illegal, but the one thing that it does, it totally undermines a six month story from the white house to which i was empathetic, that there wasn't any collusion. this was a bungled collusion. this is amateurish collusion, this is keystone kops collusion, but it doesn't change the fact it was attempted collusion. >> he says collusion over and over again. even if there's nothing illegal about what happened here the e-mails they're black and white. do you agree with his assessment that this is now evidence of collusion? >> no. i don't. i think it's silly. former speaker gingrich called this fevered insanity. i think that a

. >> andrew jackson, martin van buren. >> you are talking about kennedy, are you talking about children guys, look, i mean this has been done. all i'm saying is that presidents -- >> you're telling me if chelsea clinton sat in on the president in the g20 in china and reporters would not be like why is chelsea clinton -- >> that's my point, is that presidents trust whom they trust. the rest of us can agree or disagree. if they've got in this case with jared kushner, you know, a real trust in somebody, there is lots of precedent for this and they're going to keep -- >> that's part of the problem. part of the problem is that he trusts, that it skews your judgment that you would strus -- and you're not going to fire -- that was one of the big problems -- by the way, i think you're totally right about the historical precedent but i don't think it is a good thing, this nepotism. become couldn't fire hillary clinton, and if you were a staffer in the white house and you had an issue with her or disagreed with something -- >> woe betide. >> exactly. >> how do you have a fight with jared kushner?