so i think -- i mean, i saw the martinique -- i will go as far as to say, do not sell american stocks any more off of europe. it's a sucker's game. >> on that note, ron baron on "squawk" this morning talking markets. listen. >> i'm expecting 7% average growth for an extended period of time. the economy's growing about 7% a year. including inflation. and how long is that going to take? if you grow 7% a year, that means you double your money every ten years. that means if the stock market is 14,000 now, it could be 28,000 in ten years, and it could be 50,000 or 60,000 in 20 years. >> nice long-term bullish view of the markets. not just for the six months or even the next year. >> you compare it to bonds, which is what he's doing, you feel pretty darn good. it's also -- there's a lot of good chatter about pension plans being so far behind. i would love it, just in terms of companies being able to return money, if they were less worried about pension plans. that kind of talk makes me maybe embolden pension plans to say, let's get a little more risky and maybe we can pay off. that's also g