. >> you mentioned -- was it marty felstein? >> it would be a catastrophic insurance. >> is that what they call it? >> a little joke. >> nicely done for you young franken stein fans. because people here were born in the 70s and 80s. >> i don't watch black and white films. >> i got the joke. it took you explaining it to me. >> by the way, always a hallmark of a good joke. if you don't have to explain it, it is not funny. >> always my motto. greg you suggested that maybe the justices are getting them to trick us which is a typically stupid thing you say. sometimes the justices can appear to be leaning one way, but decide the other way. and a former clerk for justice kennedy notes that it is entirely possible and he hasn't made up his mind yet. >> can't trust him. they are just like the robe guys in "planet of the apes." >> and also, greg, you brought up the preexisting condition thing. i tried to use this playing blackjack when the dealer has an ace and i turn down the insurance and then they have blackjack and then i try to get i