don't talk about -- exposing man who has behaved not so well over the course of their lives, marty ginsberg is a pretty exemplary guy. rbg always gave him his due, and bringing forth that part of the story we felt was important. >> well, more than important it was really fundamental. it was really essential and dramatically beautiful, actually. the relationship was so amazing. anyway, let's play a little clip of what she said about marty and then we'll talk about that. >> i have had the great good fortune to share life with a partner. truly extraordinary for his generation, a man who believed at age 18 when we met that a woman's worth whether at home or on the job is as important as a man's. >> it's really moving. and in that clip we see the cameras zoom in on him during those confirmation hearings. and of course he lost him in 2010, and just give us an idea of i mean he was very funny, he almost sort of humanized the family. he'd tell stories about his children refused to allow her to cook and how they sort of saw him being more of a domestic type at home. but he also lobbied very strongly