as the sectors general made clear, his humanitarian chief, marty griffith is briefing from poland. whether it was a fundraising meeting to raise money for the humanitarian operations. in ukraine he, i don't think will give us any more details though on these ongoing operations. they have to, i think, keep quiet about these things. and they've told me that i want to say anything about any of the detail until the people are safely in ukrainian territory. perhaps that will be a little bit more from the secretary general later on. not in public, but in private because he's taking the security council to dinner tonight. the 15 ambassadors of the security council will be sitting down with the secretary general . i'm sure they're going to ask him more details of his trip. clearly, he will have among those ambassadors, the russian ambassador. so i think he'll be somewhat guarded when they asked questions of exactly what was said between him and president putin. remember, he's one of the few world leaders spoken to president putin in recent months. and certainly the most senior to visit mos