>> well, you know the criticism that's out there, from whether it's marty lipton, larry fink in someys are only in this for short-term gain, that you're not in it for the long term, that you're not in it for the best interests of the company over the long haul. >> yeah, i mean, but that's completely nonsense, because, if you look at our record, iep icahn over the years? i've helped companies. acf. you could walk on our rail cars out of this door all the way to ohio. i boarded the middle 80s. we made it flourish. we made it work. i own a lot of stocks 10 years, 15 years, 7 years. so i mean, you know, you can't argue with nonsense. you know, when it's a pr machine, they used to say, you know, icahn loses money for shareholders. well, even they can't say that anymore because we made billions and billions of dollars over the last decade, over the last 20 years. so, they can't say that anymore. so now they're saying this. so, i can only speak for myself on that point. but on a general point, you know, you have it in germany, and this country isn't germany, and this sounds corny, country.