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marty makary. dr. makary, this past weekend l.a.door mask mandate even if you had a vaccination. amazon said they will stop testing at work sites, two dingily different approaches, two reactions. what do you make of it in your mind? >> charles, if anybody feels more comfortable wearing a mask. the problem is with a mandate. when you have a strong message out there that vaccines are effective that undermines the message and hurts public health credibility. ironically on the amazon thing we've probably been overtesting people who are fully vaccinated. the reason i say that, wait a minute, we were undertesting for a long time, how could we be overtesting? the cdc guidance says we should not be testing fully vaccinated people who are asymptomatic. that is the cdc guidance, businesses, sporting events, travel groups are doing it all the time. guess what, you will pick up a colonized, small viral load of infection in a lot of people that is not clinically significant. charles: so does that mean in some cases it will over, in other words,

marty makary. reportedly funding research inside china that could potentially go toward biological weapons using taxpayer dollars? what's going on here, what do you think? >> well, a lot of us are asking that question right now, and there's a lot of waste at the pentagon, and i think there's a lot of interest in this idea of just funding things for knowledge sake, funding things in the general space of bioterrorrism. but i don't think what they recognized is that the chinese have a history of nefarious and suspicious behavior with bioterrorrism and viruses. back in 1997, 700,000 people died from the h1n1 outbreak at that time. turns out it was identical to a strain in the '50s, and many people have suggested it was frozen in the lab. there's no orr way it could last for 20 years, and it was later documented by one of the u.s. researchers that -- a chinese researcher suggested that it was released from the lab, and we know they were injecting people who were military recruits with the virus. so a lo

marchty makary. -- marty makary.k of the push to reinstate mask mandates due to the dell delta >> if we do so is because not of any data, there's noea new data that would suggest that mask mandates are necessaryryry righw and there is a lot of fear mongering, look at the language that we are using the so-called dominant strain that it is dominating, it's dominating society at a low level infection in society and most of those infections among the low level happened to be with his variant all covid variant, it's a little more contagious but all covid is contagious it's not like it's going to jump 30 feet were as the other virus could only jump a foot or two we have to put things in context. elizabeth: let's move onto this the cdc is now saying you don't need to wear aea mask of your vaccinated inside schools, they want schools to be fully reopened in the fall the cdc and fda is saying fully vaccinated people do not need a booster shot for the delta variant but we have the teachers union pushing back against all of tha

marty makary. we have breaking news.ation into the conditions of nursing homes in michigan, new york and pennsylvania after those democrat governors ordered recovering patients back into nursing homes. so they're dropping that part of the investigation. the fbi reportedly is still looking into the new york governor's cover-up of nursing home data and also his use of state workers to work on his $5 million book. what do you say about them dropping the investigation? >> well, good evening, liz. you know, this flies in the face of what new york found, the attorney general found, that had a different conclusion. to not follow up on that really leaves it open-ended. and also where is the data from the cdc that nursing home patients were so result potential? that should be -- vulnerable in there was never a signal saying, hey, this is a group where you're going to lose 40%. elizabeth: you know, it's got to feel disturbing to people out there that governors are just allowed to ad hoc, on the fly do these executive orders and pu

marchty makary. -- marty makary.einstate mask mandates due to the dell delta variant. what do you say to that? >> there's really no new data that would suggest that mask mandates are necessary right now. and, you know, there's a lot of fear mongering, liz. if you look at the language that we're using, the so-called dominant strain, that it's dominating. and dominating society -- [audio difficulty] low-level infection in society, and most of those infections among the low level happen to be with variant. all covid -- [audio difficulty] this variant is a little more contagious, but all covid is contagious. it's not like it's going to jump 30 feet whereas the other virus could jump a foot or two. we've got to put things in context. elizabeth: okay, you know, the cdc is now saying you don't need to wear a mask if vaccinated inside schools. they want schools fully reopened in the fall. the cdc and the fda is also saying fully vaccinated people do not need a booster shot for the delta variant but the teachers unions pushin

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marty makary think about that? he will tell us. up. so far president joe biden getting low marks on that issue. are democrats worried that will be a mid-term issue for them? ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? sorry? well, since you asked. it finds discounts and policy recommendations, so you only pay for what you need. limu, you're an animal! who's got the bird legs now? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> sandra: the "wall street journal" is reporting the trump organization removed financial chief alan weisselberg as the officer at some subsidiaries after prosecutors accused him of a tax fraud scheme. now this. >> we provide public health information and make determinations based on a large swath of data. that relates to booster shots as well. any assessment would be made by the cdc and the fda. we made clear last week that wasn't a recommendation. >> the drug maker looks to mays the case that a covid-19 vaccine booster shot is needed. health official

marty makary from johns hopkins and fox news contributor. also leo terrell, civil rights attorney and a fox news contributor. welcome to you both. dr. makary, you'll have some kids wearing masks, some not wearing masks. teachers in charge of keeping track of this. what do you think? >> a good step in the right direction. 15 months overdue. no science has changed since february in jama. the cdc wrote there's no transmission in schools. but it's all local approach. restrictions recognizing if you can't do everything, the schools need to be open. it does acknowledge the harm of virtual learning. some kids do okay, others struggle. some kids do okay with virtual learning, some struggle. >> leo, first, i want your take on what mark meredith was just saying there about the american federation of teachers saying this is a good step but we're very concerned about the delta variant. so you clearly get this whole yes, but maybe we'll decide in a month or two if we're going to make the kids go back to school. >> let's be very clear, trace, the unions ha

marty makary, thank you. >> thank you, jon.hern california thousands of homes are being threatened by a massive wildfire. the dixie fire is the largest wildfire in california so far this year. more than 190,000 acres are have burned, more than 10,000 homes could be in danger. christina coleman is in los angeles with the latest on that. christina. >> reporter: hi, jon. dangerously hot and dry conditions are fueling fire danger here in california and throughout the west as these out of control fires continue to burn, destroying homes, forcing thousands of people to evacuate. it's it's treatmently tough on many families -- it's extremely tough. the dixie e fire in northern california grew even larger today after it merged with another fire. it's the large wildfire in the state right now. it's destroyed at least 16 structures and threatened nearly 11,000 more. steeperer town is making it hard to to get this fire under control, it's only 21% contained. >> fuels are at record or near record levels of dryness. the lack of moisture mea

marty makary. we'll talk with him. first to congressional correspondents, chad pergram. hi, chad. >> good afternoon, martha. increasing concern in washington whether texas democrats jetting in could be fuelling more cases. six texas democrats have tested positive since they flew to d.c. and that's why there's worry about the aide that tested policy. jen psaki said the aide had no contact with the president. >> the individual has mild stops. we know there will be break-through cases. cases in vaccinated individuals are typically mild. the white house is prepared for break-through cases with regular testing. >> here's the math. the break-through infection rate for those vaccinated is less than 1%. the texas democrats are running at 10%. the outbreak big-footed the theme of the texas democrat's tour of washington, voting rights. >> you can obviously tell what the democrats have done is a disaster of a trip up to washington d.c. it has accomplished absolutely nothing. >> the democrats say they don't re

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marty makary from john hopkins school of public health and a fox news contributor.> what is your take on this delta variant? because there's so much that feels like we still don't know. >> that's right. we're in a bit of unchartered territory. one thing we know people with immune protections can feel good about the protection against severe illness and death. it's a small segment where we're seeing delta rip through. that's adults at risk that are nonimmune. that is some segment of 10 to 20% of adults in the u.s. they have to be careful or get vaccinated. >> martha: when you say not immune, people that had covid or vaccinated, right? >> that's right. there's a new study showing that natural immunity may be better than vaccinated immunity. i would never recommend someone get the infection for that reason. but it's good. it's durable. it's going strong 1 1/2 year now and the science is supporting it so ignoring natural immunity is one of the great failures and one of the reasons people feel alienated. steve scalise had covid and had natural immunity. that's why he rec

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marty makary, professor of public health at johns hopkins university. so, listen, dr. can have on their kids' learning abilities, however, they don't want to the to put their children in medical harm's way. what can you tell parents who are confused or nervous if about their children returning to the classroom and keeping them safe? >> well, arthel, parents have a right to be confused right now. there's really no good data on children. and if you think about the impact of masks on kids, some kids to well with it, other kids really struggle with it. some kids develop worsening acne, kids who wear glasses can't see well because their a glasses fog up. so it really depends on the kid. and i think it's important not to make generalizations based on the experience of healthy kids that do well with it. i think we have a distorted perception of risk as well. we don't test every kid for rsv which is a common virus. more kids die of rsv each year than died during the entire covid pandemic. arthel: interesting. do you encourage covid vaccinations for kids 12 and up? >> for kids

marty makary, thank you for talking to us.d the criminals feel emboldened coming into buckhead. they feel emboldened because they know if they get arrested they'll be out the next day. there is a 100% lack of leadership from the mayor. people feel like we've been exploited for way too long. >> bill: surging crime and that atlanta of buckhead. testifying before the senate panel. he wants to secede from atlanta. we heard from bill white, he is with me lives. good morning, nice to have you back on the program today. here are the numbers, they don't lie. in the city of atlanta, murder is up 27%, shooting victims of 18%, shooting incidents up a whopping 36% versus the same time a year ago. that is the city of atlanta. if we include buckhead where you live, murder at 33%, shooting victims up 89%, and shooting incidents up 48%. i just heard you blame the mayor. is it that simple? >> it's not that simple and i don't blame the mayor except for one thing. i have a laundry list of things that mayor bottoms has been totally absent in lead

marty makary coming back and just moments. >> sandra: tom cotton on questions in china and covid, inflation fears and christopher rufo who has been tracking the critical race theory debate since day one. >> john: first on this friday afternoon, chaos in the nation's capital after gunfire erupts at a busy well-known street. less than 2 miles from the white house. fox news producers where they are when it went down. i am john roberts and this is "america reports," and hello to you. >> hello, john, i am jacqui heinrich in for sandra smith. and given up and just an hour, at least two people shot open fire while others on the street ran for their lives, video capture by the producers inside a restaurant showing diners ducking for cover, the rooftop camera caught the sound of bullets flying. [gunshots] >> john: people in the logan circle neighborhood said that they heard guns around last night, one of the victims ended up inside the front of the restaurant that they were in as they were escorted out the back. pete hegseth will join us with thoughts on all of this rising violence in america in jus

marty makary with what you need to k judge jeanine: new concerns and mixed messages as the covid deltant sweeps across the u.s. here is joe biden's incoherent attempt to calm the fears. >> not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations. judge jeanine: he then back pedaled on that because we know that's not true. we have seen several of the runaway texas dems all vaccinated still test positive for covid, and staff at the white house and beyond. how can we best protect ourselves and our families. fox news contributor and professor of medicine at johns hopkins university. it seems 85% of the infections in the united states are based on the delta variant. it's supposedly very contagious. what can you tell us? do the vaccines help? >> if you have vaccinated immunity or flat rall immunity, you are -- or natural immunity. you are still pretty good. our battle has never been against the sniffles, it's about death. very surgically regionalized parts of the state are contributing to 50% of these new cases. judge jeanine: there was a 2y from the cleveland children -- there was a study from

marty makary calls them out because the mixed message is very confusing and he was on earlier with ust need every american vaccinated. we need every american who wants to be vaccinated vaccinated. we're going to need people to wear masks in the fall and winter if they're symptomatic if you feel you've been exposed or you're coughing we want you to wear a mask in a grocery store and you can only cry wolf so many times as a public health official so it is a step backwards to tell people fully vaccinated to mask up, we need to be sending the opposite message right now. rachel: right, we're losing the credibility of health officials because we keep sending these mixed messages and you know, people don't know what to think anymore, and he even talked with marty makary, dr. m akary, about the credibility that dr. fauci is losing within the medical community because he said, you know, half of the doctors that he talks to just agree with him, with marty makary, that, you know, this is not good to tell people to wear masks when they are fully vaccinated, and again, also, the hypocrisy of leavi

marty makary saying that this is going to be here for decades, if not for our lifetime.t that begs the question, how do you go forward with your life in a normal capacity. because let's be honest, we do have to get back to normal at some point. when you have even those who are vaccinated at this point in some areas of the country now being told the vaccine isn't enough. you need to wear a mask. i think a lot of people are going to struggle with this, griff and that's not going to help with vaccine hesitancy and, look, the vaccine as we know, it's doing its job in keeping people out of the hospital with severe illness. hopefully away from death. and that is the goal of it. so it is doing its job but i just think this isn't going to add to helping those who are hesitant about the vaccine right now. griff: that's right. and what's important to point out is that more than 99% of recent covid deaths were among the unvaccinated, 97% of new cases among the unvaccinated. but yet there are still politics associated with it from the vaccinations to the masks. nancy pelosi, speaker

marty makary peart. >> by american starting with your new mask. it's good to be with you today, doctor, walk us through the new guidance from the cdc, because it is going to be a patchwork o different guidance and likely mandates as well as we see businesses, government organizations, and other organizations putting mask mandates back in place. >> first of all, i think parts of it are reasonable, i think it's totally fine and public health to evolve your position as things change and right now we do have a more infectious variants, but it's posing a ris not to the general public, it's posing a risk to the 10-20 percent of adults that she is not to get vaccinated, of which a very small subset have risk factors to get subs severely ill, we're talking about imposing restrictions on large groups of people for the sake of that small group. we've never done that with influenza, which has a vaccine, and we don't mandate that vaccine outside of frontline healthcare workers, so what we're seeing here is totally unique. at the same time, while the cdc may h

marty makary professor of johns hopkins and welcome back here. cdc says one thing. l.a. says another. what to believe, doctor? >> a setback for public health when you have the cdc very conservative in what they say tell people fully vaccinated live your life and you don't need to wear a mask. this flies in the face of it and hurts our credibility in the future when we may ask people to wear masks in the winter if they're symptomatic. >> bill: you are saying they're wrong, right? >> it's so ironic, bill. l.a. has one of the highest immunity rates in the united states. 75% of adults are vaccinated and they had one of the highest natural immunity rates in the country. half of californians had natural immunity. it's ironic. >> bill: we found 61% of the entire population including teenagers would be vaccinated in l.a. county. question on this. governor newsom two weeks ago lifted the mask mandate. now they are going the other way. what's the truth about the delta variant? is it more contagious, is it more severe than what we've gone through for 16 months? >> first of all you

marty makary.st, not a politician, but what do you make of this? the idea that donald trump, he's the president whose task force was intimately involved in creating the vaccine, is now being blamed for vaccine hesitancy. >> yeah, look, i think we should shut out all the talk of politics related to the vaccine. everybody is united now, everybody agrees that the vaccines are an incredible miracle, and we immediate to encourage everybody -- we need to encourage everybody to get vaccinated. by the way, david, a small subset of america. we're talking about a very surgical, small subset of adults right now, and those are the ones at risk. by the way, those numbers are going up right now. the vaccine uptake is going up as people see delta and find somebody that they know recommend it or becomes more relatable. david: well, let's talk about masks then. and in particular i know, again, i don't want to put you in a political corner here, but it took on a political tone because there were six texas democrats

elizabeth: we hear you, let's listen to doctor marty makary talk about the delta variant he thinks isng about the delta variant. let me break it down it's about 40 - 50% more transmissible but no evidence is more deadly, we were told to be the 117 mutation was more deadly in the research came in showing that'swe not. were testing too many people who already have immunity, that's a violation of the cdc guidelines, nursing homes, hospitals or testing people already immune with no symptoms that's what's driving up the case numbers that look like delta hospitalization. we are not good to see aas surgn cases but will probably see a search and pcr test among those asymptomatic with con eyes delta strain in their nose but they're not transmissible and not sick from the illness. elizabeth: what do you say congressman? >> stop the politics of fear, follow the science and every they go be all right we lived in this pandemiciv for 15 months so many americans are vaccinated in the early had the antibodies from having covid. stop the fear, let's move on, we can live with this. elizabeth: congressm

marty makary who appears here for equally and i thought about this. he attesting to many people have been vaccinated. we all know you can still get covered but you will be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. nobody is dying and i see you once vaccinated. how can we get that message out better? >> jesse: not by nuking people off facebook. i'm upset because i'm going to l.a. in two weeks. if i have a mask, no one can recognize me. >> jessica: your eyes tell the stories! >> jesse: nobody can say, "hey, that's watters!" and i can't sell books that way. you are right, the cases have gone up a smidge. they were averaging about 100 cases a day, now a 200. yesterday they only had one death, the day before was zero. it's not a lot of people getting hospitalized. it's flat. if the cases go up, that gives newsom, who is running in a recall, an excuse to get really scary and say, "lockdowns, here we come, masks on, i'm going to mail out some ballots." because you know what that's about. i think these governors and all politicians, especially on the left, got a ta

marty makary saying the virus is going to be with us for years, if not decades. thought an important op-ed over the weekend, sarah sanders, former white house press secretary, fox news contributor, wrote about urging people to get the vaccine and pointed back to the fact that this administration's not giving credit to president trump for what he did. she said this. i decided to take advantage of president trump's operation warp speed and get vaccinated. president biden, vice president harris and others on the left truly care about increasing the vaccination rate and saving lives, they should admit they were wrong to cast doubt on operation warp speed and give president trump and his team the credit they they are due for the development of a safe and effective vaccine in record time. i don't know if that includes a psa now to be created with president biden and former president trump standing next to each other but they're going to have to do something to get everybody on-board with only half the country vaccinated. jillian: i said it in the last hour and i mainta

story with larry: that's a real story with the delta variant another variance joining us doctor marty makaryout the delta variant what is a real risk of your vaccinated what is the real risk. >> you have nothing to worry about if your immune the language is misleading when we hear it's a dominant strain, it's not dominating anything it's the more common type of coping and we got very low levels of covid so we have to put things into perspective all covid is highly contagious so the idea that this can jump 50 feet when the other strains cannot i think we lost d distord perception at risk. larry: there's another one some friends of mine the land the variant in their hyperventilating how this can be the worst one yet. >> researchers in chile suggested it could invade your immunity it turns out the immunity they were studying was the immunity from the chinese vaccine which is not very effective more media headlines around something that doesn't carry that we got good news today rome nipped no beer just finished its phase three trial, shorter hospitalizations and better client of the virus in the

marty makary says the current threat is low. all at risk americans are protected and vaccinated.y rate is similar to the seasonal flu. >> yeah. elizabeth: watch this, this is discussion that happened on msnbc about mandates for vaccines t was led by anchor stephanie ruhle that airlines should pay the government back, they got a lot of bailout money, should pay it back by mandating vaccines. >> the only wray to change the dynamic, especially places where there is hesitancy is to have a requirement. if you can't get on an airplane without a vaccination, that is going to change the dynamic. the airlines took an enormous amount of taxpayer money, enormous amount of tax payer in money. we all supported them. >> enormous. say it out loud. they have to deal with customers. they have to deal with employees. they wouldn't have either one if the government hadn't given them billions and billions of dollars last year. so maybe they could pay the government back and say yes, we'll help try to get people vaccinated. elizabeth: congressman, what do you say? >> well, first of all it is not the