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marty makary somebody that we trust following the science trying to break it down for us.lain to me why there is such a move in the goal post if we are 70% that they promised we could get back to normal. first of all, i disagree with them giving us a deadline and telling us a number that we have to hit. if they picked that number, why not just stick with it. >> i think delta was so much more contagious it did warrant moving the number up a little bit. remember, dr. fauci had always said the bottom line raw number less to 10 to 20 cases. we would get back to normal quote unquote free and clear. most of the country is between one in five cases per 100,000. most are asymptomatic or mild. and yet we still low risk individuals forced to wear masked after vaccinated. three drugs out now formally studied. one is out and two going to get fda soon. reduced deaths and hospitalizations 90%. completely renders the case mandate obsolete. two of the drugs cut covid dakotas zero. that drug changed the calculus and that needs to be factored in as people lose their jobs and see 911 respons

marty makary joins us now. you had a weekend to process all of this.need to know about omicron? >> well, we're going to continue to see variants overseas for decades to come and we shouldn't panic. we shouldn't shut things down. this variant appears to be encompassed by immunity. at least it's highly likely. our track record with variants suggests there's nothing to worry about. all 2,000 plus variants that have happened with the covid-19 virus have been encompassed by natural and vaccinated immunity. carley: i was reading this fox news.com, the south african doctor who first alerted the world to this variant now says that she is seeing symptoms that are unusual but mild. mild is very good. do you know what unusual symptoms she is referring to? and if the symptoms are mild why is everybody for lack of a better term freaking out about this? >> carley, dr. coatsy, she is chair of the south african medical association, she's saying they're atypical in the sense they're far more mild, they're downgraded, there's no persistent cough, they're noticing it in

marty makary is a fox news contributor and professor at johns hopkins university school of medicine where we have gotten so much of our numbers and material this pandemic. dr. makary, great to see you. the one thing that i want to ask you about is research that i know that you are familiar with. we have those biosafety labs. they have are a high-level lab. how many do we have here? >> we have four of thoefs in the united states, 59 in the world. this he need to go to work now to tell us whether or not this new variant binds to antibodies. that's a very simple scientific experiment. it has been done with other variants. we have the entire world economy on hold right now. we need this answer. we have 54 billion dollars at the nih and cdc. they need to go to work and get the question answered. we have elective surgery on hold. flights being banned and all kinds of things going on. >> harris: elected officials in the continent of africa are upset with biden now. why are you singling them out and punishing south africa for finding the variant? quickly, you told my team in 12 hours we could kno

marty makary.ida versus california, why is this happening. >> good morning, carley. so california is testing a lot more and it just goes to show, if you want to test the heck out of everybody, you can make this thing go a long time. now, both states have about 100 deaths per day. we think most of those are from covid, maybe not all. that's equal in both states. so what's happening right now is you're seeing a place with twice the population california with about the same number of deaths as florida. it may be similar with regard to the actual toll on society. i think we'll learn a lot about the long-term downside consequences of substance abuse deaths, suicides and the damage from lost time in school, delayed healthcare for a lot of people. that's going to come out late. i think that will be the ultimate test in comparing the two states. carley: there is a battle over mandates, though. at the same time this is happening, pfizer came out with this pill that seems like a miracle drug that would reduc

marty makary wrote that, and marty makary, the doctor himself, joins us now.r. should a parent vaccinate their 5-year-old child right now? >> good morning, stuart. so 50-60% of kids in that 5-11 age group have already had covid, and that's based on the cdc's own estimates and extrapolated for after delta. to the child has had covid, i would say no base with the on the data we have today. for those who have a co-morbidity, those are the ones who get into trouble, and i would say, yes. i would not recommend the second dose, three or four weeks, but after three months. and, yes, parents want to see more data. and as matthew mcconaughey recently said is, he's not comfortable getting it done until he sees more data. we've only followed 1500 kids and made these sweeping, enthusiastic recommendations for all kids. stuart: so is that your advice, to parents of healthy kids, wait for more information, don't rush into it now? that's basically what you're saying. >> yeah. i think it's reasonable for healthy kids to get one dose, but if they had it before, no. and is reme

hospitalization for a child between the ages of 5 and 17 looking at the cdc data through july marty makarys out, the chance of hospitalization is .3 per million. it is infinitesimal. the idea that you would push this decision on a parent and then mandate it in a school which byproduct pushing kids out of school actually devastating for their mental health, for their growth. this is so counter intuitive but so absolutely predictable. rachel. i saw this time and time again where the left has put our children last. i stood at the podium ad nauseam better part of 10 months our children should be in schools. covid should not force these schools to shut counsel. covid minimally effects children. look at data from countries in western europe. their children are in school. why aren't kids in school here in america? the answer is very clear because the teachers union runs the show on the left. to steve's point how did that work out last night. i don't think it works when you kowtow to the deeper's union at the expense of the child and the parent. >> rachel: yeah, i agree kayleigh, i think there is

marty makary was e-mailing me ant this. he said it was studied in two formal trials. there's no reason that anybody, including all variants, should die from covid ever. but why isn't this biden administration talking about that? >> i think that if you look at the benefit of covid nor the democrat party, they won the last election based on covid. changing election rules. so made it far easier to cheat and potentially steal different portions of the electorate. >> the election was stolen to be clear. >> do i think there was cheating in my state of wisconsin? hell yes there was cheating. did it change the results? i don't know. >> you don't know or you know? >> i didn't say changed the election results. i said -- >> can you fight about this in the break? we're on covid. >> my point is if you can impose broader rules in regard to elections that will benefit democrats. if you care about covid, we haven't when shut down the border and stop people coming over the border? we haven't we tested theme? they're just flying in to the country. why are we waiting to shut down travel

marty makary. 42% of parents say they are unlikely to have their children vaccinated.this. >> yeah, other polls suggest 27% of parents are ready to get their kids vaccinated right away in the 5-11 age group. we don't know what the risk will be in a post pandemic era. right now the risk of covid hospitalization in the population of all kids 5-11 is 1 in 167,000 per week. that is what is on the cdc website and probably that risk is going to decline. i think the vaccine in kids 5-11 is not a one sizes fits all strategy. if a kid has a comorbidity, yes, it makes sense. space it out more than three weeks. do three months. if a kid had the infection, they have natural immunity, no. for everybody else in the middle, it's a personal decision. some parents will be concerned about the risks of side effects and even the rare risks of myocarditis, which are as high as 1 in 7,000 boys. >> charles: so we have two million cases in the 5-11 group, 8300 hospitalizations. you never want to minimize deaths but you brought up the statistics. sounds like -- you wonder where the urgency is.

states and elsewhere around the world, with very little information about the virus, our colleague marty makary was on saying, what are the laboratory tests to see if these things bind to antibodies connect whether it could be vulnerable to the vaccine or whether the vaccine might not work. >> john, marty makes a very good point right now. they need to be looking at this variant, specifically at what it does with the vaccine-induced immunity. what about the natural immunity connect what about the antibody therapy? these mrna vaccines are very tolerant to the spike protein. we know that the omicron variant has about 32 mutations in that state protein so it is possible that they will be less effective. but you have to remember, it's not just about those antibody responses that come after the vaccinations. there is more long-term cell-mediated immunity that can come from vaccines and natural immunity. so a lot of testing needs to be done. we need to start looking at, are you seeing more breakthrough cases and people who have been vaccinated or who have recovered from infection? are you seeing more

marty makary. doctor, thanks so much for joining the program.ell, first of all, i disagree with what he said he said the only way to enjoy yourself is to be vaccinated. 140 million americans with natural immunity and more effective than vaccinated immunity accord tog the data. they want a one size fits all strategy. it's good for marketing, good for simplifying the message. boosters are not supported by the data for young people and not supported with those with natural immunity. that's why the fda experts voted them down for everybody by a 16-2 vote just 8 weeks ago before the second push not them. people should enjoy thanksgiving. for those high risk, for whose who are adults with no immunity of any kind, they are the ones who are susceptible and they need to be super careful. for everyone else they should feel good with their immunity. look at the data one in 26,000 vaccinated people will get hospitalize in the average age is 73 of that one person. >> lawrence: you know, doctor, i'm so glad you brought up the high risk folks the people that a

marty makary ancillary to attorney aaron siri. welcome back to both of you. dr. anthony fauci, november 12. this is when he said about the vaccines and where we are now. >> they are seeing a waning of immunity not against infection but against hospitalizations and to some extent death which is starting to now involve all age groups. it isn't just the elderly. it's waning to the point where you're seeing more and more people getting breakthrough infections and more and more of those people are getting breakthrough infections and winding up in the hospital. >> shannon: doctor, i think we all know people like that. what does this mean for the future? are there always going to be boosters? dr. fauci has been one of the biggest proponents of making sure people get vaccinated. if he is saying that they have limited durability, what are we to do? >> i think his enthusiasm for boosters is a little disproportionate to the data that supports boosters for younger people. the fda technical experts and the cdc experts voted down boosters for every american a matter of wee

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marty makary. how concerned right now should we be with this variant? >> well, there's a lot of unknowns. i wouldn't get too concerned for a subject that we have little data. we're seeing the omicron variant spread quickly in south africa. they have immunization rates of 25 to 30%. parts of pennsylvania and new england, it's 95% of all adults. the question is will it evade immunity? the last tests are being done right now and we'll find out next week. they mix the new omicron variant of the virus with neutralizing anti-bodies from somebody that has been immunized. as long as there's partial immunity, we'll be okay. the new drugs are pan coronavirus drugs. the new merck drug and pfizer drug work against the variants. >> we see the u.e. banning travel in africa in flight. the biden administration announced that it will restrict travel from south africa and several other countries with the variant showed up starting monday. is that the right move and should the u.s. move faster? >> it does very little. when you enact a travel ban three days in the future e

marty makary suggesting that, in fact, there should be exceptions for people that have had covid andbodies from natural immunity. they should get a break on this but no. >> and it could be a really wig legal problem for this osha mandate too. there are 24 republican attorneys general who have already threatened to sue over this before the final text of it was released not only on this issue of natural immunity i think there's a legal are problem, but also whether osha has the responsibility and the authority to do this. one of the things they're saying is that osha is the workplace regulator, so you think about chemicals, machinery in the workplace. the question is do they have the power to make employers mandate things related to broader threats. could osha make every employer require its employees to get a flu vaccine? my guess is no, but i think we're going to see that play out in the courts in the coming months. david: well, and, kim, it shows once again the blindness of the biden administration to popular pushback against policies that are unpopular. >> yeah. remember too, this

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marty makary is with me now. i see this all the time.earn to live with this thing? >> we do. i think what we're not hearing the risk of covid is not equally distributed in the population. it is a message that we missed early and a message we're missing late in the pandemic. let me give you some numbers, stu. if you have a full portfolio of vaccine, vaccination, that is you're fully vaccinated your risk of getting covid is one in 2,000 per week. the risk of -- is one in 20,000 per week. now that risk is heavily clustered towards older people. the average age of a breakthrough infect being hospitalized is 3. the average age of someone dying is age 80. what you will see as these boosters get pushed out around advisories recommending them, college students are going to be required to get boosters. it is going to ignore the fact that the risk is not equally distributed in the population. it is always been hard for this virus to hurt someone young and healthy. that is still the case. stuart: what about a booster mandate? i can see it coming. i

marty makary joins us now to react. is that acceptable, doctor? >> not really.or them to acknowledge that they don't any documented case of a transmission among somebody with natural immunity who then got reinfected that says a lot. it says that they don't have a science and data driven approach to imposing restrictions on the 140 million americans with natural immunity. they feel disenfranchised for good reason. brian: israel. >> israel released data and that's actually where we are getting most of our data from. israel, largest study done worldwide, natural immunity 27 more times than vaccinated immunity. i would never encourage anyone go out and try to get the in'affection for that reason to believe. be honest with people. we can do and this a still encourage vaccination among people not immune. brian: people at home are throwing something at the television now because they are frustrated. they had it. reluctant to go get a vaccine because they had it. they get the antibody test. the antibodies are high. but they can't get anyone officially in the government

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marty makary. fox news contributor and professor of health policies, john tomei.rst time in a couple of years. who is safe? >> happy thanksgiving. one thing with covid that we've never really accepted as a country and thought is that the risk is radically different in different groups. and that means the young and healthy are automatically different risk level than those who are older, those who are obese. similarly, those with natural immunity are at low risk. for those who are fully vaccinated, the risk of hospitalization is one and 26,000. and that as per the cdc. that is a weekly risk. that is very low. who is that one person out of every 26,000 that is hospitalized? the average age is 73. so for those who are young healthy and ready to take a little rest, they should be able to live a normal life. >> let's play no some sound from mike ryan. he is the world health organization had of the emergency program. let's take a listen. >> the prepandemic levels and many other things. the reality is the virus will continue to transmit intensely in that environment. >> o