a martyre is one who bears a testimony. and so steven is an example of a true witness because a true witness is confirmed when they are tested. okay. are you with me? am i moving slow enough? so what you see happening is verse 8-15, steven full of faith and power, he was doing great wonders and signs among the people. you see that. then there arose some who were from the freedmen, it is a group of jews who were either themselves freed or they were really the dependents of free jews by the romans. they had established their own culture or their own group and it was like 3 or 4 sing 4 syna. they were jews. they rose up. they rose up and dismuted with disputed with steven. he was a full man doing what a full man does. he does ministry. his ministry was impacting their culture, their environment, so what they did was they challenged him and entered into a dispute with him. do you see that? here is the problem. they could not win are you with me? steven, he didn't have time to prepare. but really the issue is not do you have tim

tonight i was told was going to be an even bigger, wilder celebration in martyrs square.ight. the british foreign office has just told all uk citizens to leave benghazi. libya's second largest city. due to an unspecified threat. the libyan government, such as it is, has denied any basis for such drastic action. a lone cherry bomb now and again, an awkward flurry of roman candles. the buzz of last night's chaotic party parched, big time. whether or not this is a result of the larger geopolitical decision, the vibe toward this western film crew seems apprehensive. uncertain. the following day feels better. somewhat. fresh produce is for sale on tripoli streets. if you were a small restaurant, or shopping for a big family, you'd bring cash, a wheelbarrow, and load up with what you need. but the revolution has brought changed tastes. libyans, especially young libyans, hunger for more than just freedom. they hunger for places like this. kentucky fried chicken. uncle kentucky fried chicken, okay. >> the colonel, his buddies, the king and the clown, have not quite made it here.

he will never be a martyr because he has nothing to give. criminal, a cold-blooded murderer. but for most of those 45 minutes prosecutors spent snapshots of each individual victim killed, going through all 13 of them, talking about their families, the struggles that their loved ones have been through. incredibly powerful testimony and incredible descriptions of what these families have been through and the lives that were taken here and every story ended with the image and the prosecutor talking about the image of two uniformed soldiers walking up to the homes of their loved ones to deliver the news that their loved ones had been killed here at ft. hood. that's how it ended here and that's what the jury is going to take into the deliberation room. ashleigh? >> i kept waiting for the allegation that he was not in defense of others and say, no, i did this to defend the taliban but nothing yet. thank you for that. what plays out next? what happens today? let's bring back in jeffrey toobin, our legal analyst. when a jury goes back into the delib

. >> today was called the friday of martyrs.nd that was set that way by the muslim brotherhood as a day of demonstrations to take place all across the nation cheer in egypt. 26 or 28 numbers of demonstrations to take place in small towns and large cities across the country. they were smaller than expected. they were after friday prayers, and outside of the mosques in various areas. there was mar down the geza boulevard that had a couple of thousand people there. and also up in an area toward the delta -- the nile delta. there's a report of one person being killed in one of the demonstrations that took place up there. all in all it was less than expected on this friday of martyr's day. that is trued as something of a -- what you want to call it, setback for the muslim brotherhood because they were not able to rally the number of people that they had before. part of that had to do with the government crackdown. is but that's where things stand right now. i would say quieter than certainly had been thought or believed, and we'll ha

you've been characterized as a hero and as a villain, a martyr, terrorist. >> i'm not yet a martyr. >> right. >> let's keep it that way. >> julian assange, the nomadic founder of the website wikileaks, is under legal and personal attack from the u.s. government for publishing military and diplomatic secrets. when we met him, he was under house arrest in the english countryside, where we conducted the most extensive television interview he's given about his life, his beliefs, and his concern about being charged and extradited to the united states. >> it is completely outrageous. it is the worst form of censorship we have seen by the united states since the 1950s, since the mccarthy era. >> are you surprised? >> i am surprised, actually. >> but you are screwing with the forces of nature. [ticking] >> [blows whistle] >> you might not think of sugar, corn, or metal as material that can cause a catastrophic explosion in a factory. but when they're ground into dust and suspended in the air, all it takes is a small spark to set off a disaster. >> if this material were gasoline, there would b

. >> egypt's muslim brotherhood have called for another day of protests, dubbed the 'friday of martyrs.' after week in which 900 people were killed in demonstrations around the country, enthusiasm to take to the street may now be waning. nicholas reports. morsi's students, pro supporters, protested at an education ministry building thursday shouting down with military rule. we demand the release of our imprisoned colleagues, and that the rights of market students are respected. >> the program or see cap is calling for a 'friday of martyrs thatnst the military coup cost morsi from power on the third of july. the muslim brotherhood is trying to maintain momentum for its cause amid a wave of arrests of its leaders, including its up guide. it's a supreme quite the rest of the muslim brotherhood leaders will create more violence because this is an organized group. they will not give up easily. if they arrest the first line of leaders, there is a second, a third, and ia fourth. this group has been going for eight years. >> nearly eight members were taken into custody on thursday. at least 90

he's said he wants to be a martyr.are the chances that they may actually decide let's not make it easy on him? >> reporter: well, you know, only those 13 jurors will, you know, know had exactly how they're going to approach this, but this will begin again on monday when prosecutors will be calling up family members of the victims, 13 in all, including 3 survivors that were wounded and they will begin making their statements in the punishment phase. it's not clear exactly what nadal hasan is going to do, but i've spoken to several family members throughout the day today, and it's interesting, very much weighing on their mind is this whole notion about whether or not the death sentence would make nadal hasan in the view of some around the world a martyr and because of that, i spoke with the husband of one survivor who said he thought the death sentence -- death penalty would be too lenient of a sentence, that because of that issue of him wanting to become a martyr, he'd much rather see him rot away in prison for the rest

is that going to make him a martyr?uld give them enormous amount of credibility which would be ridiculous. he is not a martyr and his moral and religious beliefs are twisted. to give that credibility by factoring that in their decision-making process too much is, would be laughable. so i think they're really going to focus on the evidence they hear during the sentencing phase which i can't imagine how tragic it is going to be. i'm really glad i'm not going to be subject to it. that is what they will focus on is aggravating everyday. i look forward to hearing what mitigating evidence. arthel: jeff, i have to wrap it. brian, give me 15 seconds how much in terms of you think the impact will be after listening to the victim's families get up on the stand and testify what happened to their loved ones? >> i put it this way. we happily make martyrs of any terrorists and there is no reason why this guy shouldn't become the next one. he did a cold-blooded murder and should pay for that crime. i think that will weigh on the minds

hi will not ever be a martyr. he's a criminal, a cold blooded murderer, and he continued on november 5th he did not leave this earth. he remained here to pay a price, to pay a debt, the debt he owes is his life. those were the closing words colonel mulligan gave to the panel before deliberations began and clearly the panel gave the prosecution what they wanted, trace. we're expecting, we should tell you, family members to speak coming up at the top of the hour, so we are waiting on that live here from fort hood. >> it should be pointed out that very few military death sentences are carried out, so carrying this through is a different scenario all together. casey stegall live for us in fort hood. casey, thank you. >>> well, now to the crisis in syria, and word that people there are bracing for an attack. some trying to get out of the capital city of damascus, or if they must stay, they're stocking up on food and water. that as the pentagon prepares for a possible strike whenever president obama gives the word. u.s.

. >> did he want to be a martyr? >> reporter: i don't think he wanted to die. i don't think he wanted the death penalty. i think there is a difference between wanting the death sentence and accepting it. the prosecutor in this case addressed that issue directly. he told those jurors not to be distracted by what major nadal hassan might or might not want, but focus on the evidence, and recognize in the end this was not for anything other than major hassan's fulfilling his dispotterred objective of inflicting harm on the army, and that was persuasive for the members. >> will there be an automatic appeal. >> reporter: not only automatic, but it's mandatory. in the code of justice most defendants have a right to waive an appeal. you may not waive an appeal in death. there will be an appeal. perhaps others who are opposed to capital punishment and want to fight it in the military system as they do in the civilian system, it will take a long time. there is going to be a lot of appellate process, but we have to understand that before the government should be permitted

we'll look at the muslim brotherhood's plan friday of martyrs. in addition we'll speak to a man who came as close to death really as anyone can. in fact, doctors declare him dead until his son, we're told, said, "dad, you're not going to die today." >>> first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the case of the ex-nfl star and currents murder suspect aaron hernandez took a big step forward when a grand jury indicted him on several counts including murder in the first degree. prosecutors say he shot his friend not far from his million dollar mansion. remember, jogger found the body of odin lloyd. another friend told prosecutors he heard hernandez admit he pulled the trigger. and footage shows hernandez holding a gun. this particular shooting may be just one of his now mounting worries. mollie line is live outside the courthouse in attleborough, massachusetts. >> reporter: aaron hernandez entered court today before a packed house full of journalists, also with the family members of the man that he's allegedly accused of killing odin lloyd after the p

ended by telling the jury that nidal hasan would never be a martyr, because he has nothing to give.e is not giving his life, we are taking his life. as you mentioned, it only took about 2 and a half hours. >> ed lavandera, i really appreciate it, ed. >>> i want to bring in former army sergeant howard ray. he joins us on the phone. he was awarded the army commendation medal. he was credited for saving the lives of six soldiers and three civilians. howard, thank so much for joining us. a little while ago you told my colleague jake tapper that you thought hasan deserved the death penalty. now that he's received that sentence, how do you feel today? >> as a survivor of this atrocity, as an individual i feel absolutely wonderful that justice has indeed been served. more importantly, i think this should serve as a reminder to this criminal, this murderer, that, no, you will not die a martyr, and indeed he will die as a result of our wonderful federal prosecution that was done in this case. i think that as a survivor also, i think that the victims are also looking at this as a victory, bec

king himself was martyred, still marching for jobs and freedom.me here 50 years ago. [ applause ] the martyrs played it all for a dream. a dream, as john lewis said, that millions have now actually lived. so how are we going to repay the debt? dr. king's dream of interdependence, his prescription of wholehearted cooperation across racial lines, they ring as true today as they did 50 years ago. oh, yes. we face terrible political gridlock now. read a little history. it's nothing new. yes, there remain racial inequalities in employment, income, health, wealth, incarceration, and in the victims and perpetrators of violent crime. but we don't face beatings, lancings and shootings for our political beliefs anymore. and i would respectfully suggest that martin luther king did not live and die to hear his heirs crying about political gridlock. it is time to stop complaining and put our shoulders against the stubborn gates holding the american people back. [ applause ] we cannot be disheartened by the forces of resistance to building a modern economy of g

separate the japanese suicide ritual to for the benefit of society so he's great martyr to some smart himself for the benefit of a greater economy so martyrdom is something that we've seen typically associated with other parts of the world and other. ideologies but now it's creeping over into this atlas shrugged capitalist version where you have martyrs down the c.e.o. space well this is it in effect both businesses destroyed their assets in part or in full to avoid turning over their customers data such public displays are far more difficult for large companies to make and help explain why the most public efforts to challenge secret government orders have come from small companies and non-profits but i would say we're in a sort of system where this so-called capitalism is just these large companies which is no different from the government surveilling you or the recycling bin watching you and controlling your behavior you know we have to begin to show talk about controlling the brains of rats with their own minds because because the brain emits electromagnetic frequencies similar to

otherwise i am just a paraplegic in jail i am not a martyr.ri: so either it -- even by the so injection. >> exactly. it is up to the jury and the interesting thing about this case that separates a court-martial if he gets the death penalty obama gets a phoneecall. >> but then we pay for him. >> but then there is an appeal and they have not had a good record to execute. lori: skipping ahead to our insider-trading billionaire posting the experts say he has a nice sound, adjustable bet, a balcony, i think a lot of people are annoyed by this. >> to deal with what is really going on he is in a medical center because he is said diabetic innate need a kidney. >> come on. he has t manservant. >> he does not have the manservant there are unwritten les that in federal prison camps for example to get extra money. he takes his macaroni and cheese imports in the microwave and any goes down to give him toothpaste. lori: back up to george zimmerman asking florida to reimburse legal expenses so i guess the legal fees are different matters what is the likeliho

we've had a string of martyrs from the time of emmett till. every generation has its martyrs.hey're going to continue. and we celebrate them and we point -- we lift them up to show that they're not lost. i can never forget the three weeks after this magnificent speech, four little girls were bombed in their sunday school class and then two kids who nobody ever knew about were slaughtered riding bicycles for nothing that the world will never be perfect but we can never accept these kinds of suffering and justice. and for me, zimmerman is just as much a tragedy as trayvon. his life is ruined over a love of guns. and a false sense of what manhood is. >> wanted to be a cop. >> so the president's -- the president's business is to talk to us and say something that's going to have an impact on egypt at the same time. because our problems of poverty are reflected in the 50 million people who are in the streets of egypt because the economy doesn't include them. >> egypt's problem is jobs too. >> the world is falling apart. and nobody can bring it back together and nobody can define a v

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seems to be his plan to act as martyr, get the death penalty, not put on a defense at all. >> shepard: sounds as if -- i don't know if he is going to cross-examine him but my understanding if he decides to testify in his own, quote, defense, unquote, it could very well be him interviewing himself. >> that's absolutely right. then he has he opportunity to go on a diatribe. he wanted to initially put on the defense it was the defense of others, defending muslims from people who were going to fight the war in afghanistan. the judge said he could not do that. he had been able to do that he could really go on a diatribe. now he has been curtailed, and the other thing is back then the lawyers again tried to step in and help him, and then the trade to get taken off the case and the judge wouldn't allow it. i. >> shepard: for this lawyers, can you put yourself in their position and tell me what it's like? >> it's got to be horrible. you remember not only are they deffing -- defending him but you're also defend criminal justice system and the military tribunal system, and to have your haps tie

it was set to be the friday of martyrs as you said.hey thought they would have 28 separate demonstrations across the country. most of them did come off, all of them smaller than expected. there is a report that one person was killed. but all in all the demonstrations were considerably smaller than they were thought to have been, or might have been. so the muslim brotherhood didn't get the turnout that they thought they might get, but they claim there will be further days of demonstration coming up. >> is that fatigue or fear, any way to know why there wasn't such a turnout? >> i think that's an interesting question. yeah, i think it's fatigue. most people say that that is a factor in all of this. that day on the 14th was just such a traumatic day, there is fatigue. the other thing is the army has clamped down further on the muslim brotherhood. they would not allow anybody anywhere near those mosques that had the killings take place on the 14th of august. so that helped i guess reduce the tension over all. i think fatigue on the whole i

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[applause] the martyrs played it all for a dream.dream that john lewis said that millions have now actually lived. so how are we going to repay the debt? dr. king's dream of interdependence, his prescription of whole heartedness across racial lines rings as true today as it did 50 years ago. oh, yes, we phase terrible gridlock now. it's nothing new. yes there remained racial inequalities, employment, heal health, wealth, victimization and perpetration of crime. but we don't face lynches and beatings for our political beliefs any more. and i would suggest that martin luther king did not live and die to hear his heirs whine about the political gridlock. it is time to stop complaining and put our shoulders against the stubborn gates holding american people back. we cannot be disheartened by the forces of resistence to building a modern economy of good jobs and rising incomes or to building our education system to give all our children a common core of knowledge necessary to insure success. or to give americans of all ages access to affo

this man, will he be a martyr to his people?s we still have to go by the law in america, in this arena. jon: well, it's just an awful case, and, you know, my hat is off to those witnesses who have to, you know, testify against the guy who shot them -- >> could you imagine? jon: -- and he's sitting there, you know -- >> and look him in the face. and he has no remorse. jon: yeah. rebecca, jonna, thank you both. jenna: new protests rocking egypt as the u.s. cancels a key military exercise, that's not sparking the protests, but what else could the united states be doing in response to this deadly crackdown by the military? we have more on this developing story. >>> also, is new york city on the brink of a detroit-style bankruptcy? new york city has been on the brink in the past. the warning from the mayor mike bloomberg that just came down. a question that's surfacing today, is this real? is this really where new york city is today, or is this somehow just a scare tactic from the mayor? we're live with that story next. ♪ ♪ we've bee

do we want him to be considered a martyr?alyzed right now, can you imagine 23 hours of solitary confinement adult diapers with a catheter for the rest of his life? >> mercedes in court documents to this point, let's put this on the screen. he said this, i'm paraplegic and could be in jail the rest of my life and died by lethal injection, i would still be a martyr. what if one of the family members takes the stand on monday and says, don't give him what he wants. >> that's exactly right. frankly, that could possibly happen. the blood bath that this man cr were trying to save other soldiers those soldiers were injured, killed in the same process. complete blood bath and the only aggravating circumstances is that he had mental illness. >> what mental illness? >> apparently he has posttraumatic stress disorder. >> he's a psychiatrist. >> understood. >> ptsd because he had to listen to the stories of those who actually were in combat, please. >> well, frankly, you know, if i was the family member, let this man just rot in jail. le

he said if he is executed i would still be a martyr.rism expert seth jones says hasan wants extreme radical muslims around the world to view him as a hero. >> there is no question that nidal hasan has a somewhat jaded view of where he sits. he thinks he is going to be a martyr and he may have a small following. it is not that big. >> reporter: from the start nidal hasan admitted he was the shooter who walked into a fort hood medical processing building and started firing on unarmed fellow soldiers, testimony from more than 90 witnesses and survivors was graphic describing the chaos and may hem that was overcome with blood and smoke as lasers from hasan's hand gun crus crossed the room targeting victims, many of the soldiers described how hasan specifically targeted uniformed soldiers like christopher royal shot twice in the back. >> in your eyes is he a terrorist? >> in my eyes he is. when i looked at his eyes when he came in and i looked at his terror that he posed that day, yes, absolutely. >> it is clear nidal hasan will be convicted

do we want him to be considered a martyr?alyzed right now, can you imagine 23 hours of solitary confinement adult diapers with a catheter for the rest of his life? >> mercedes in court documents to this point, let's put this on the screen. he said this, i'm paraplegic and could be in jail the rest of my life and died by lethal injection, i would still be a martyr. what if one of the family members takes the stand on monday and says, don't give him what he wants. >> that's exactly right. frankly, that could possibly happen. the blood bath that this man created. as soldiers were trying to save other soldiers those soldiers were injured, killed in the same process. complete blood bath and the only aggravating circumstances is that he had mental illness. >> what mental illness? >> apparently he has posttraumatic stress disorder. >> he's a psychiatrist. >> understood. >> ptsd because he had to listen to the stories of those who actually were in combat, please. >> well, frankly, you know, if i was the family member, let this man ju

statements the prosecution told the story of each of those killed, but he told jurors he would not be a martyr. after deliberating for just over agreed he the panel should be executed. it has been more than 50 years since a u.s. servicemen was put to death. a long appeals process will begin. ultimately the u.s. president will have to prove an execution. >> anyone who would use their religion to commit acts of terrorism serves no god other than his own interest. as far as the claim he was saving lives, he has done nothing but deteriorate relations between the u.s. and muslim countries. years of waiting, they feel justice has been served, but that will do little to change the lives of those that were ruined. today raindrops did not dampen the spirits of tens of thousands who gathered in to mark the 50th anniversary of martin luther king's i have a dream speech. president obama led the ceremony presidentsded clinton and carter. obama gave an impassioned andch about king's legacy challenges we face. >> we might not face the same dangers as 1973, but the fierce urgency remains. we may never duplica

. >>> it's being called the friday of martyrs.emonstrations take place more than a week after hundreds of people were killed. jonathan betz is live from cairo to tell us more about what is happening. jonathan in fact how large and widespread have the protests actually ended up being? >> the protests were still large, richelle but not as large as we have seen in the past. today was a big test to see how much pressure they could apply on the current government. the resistance does continue but the numbers are not as large as what we have seen in the past, and part of the reason for that is what we have seen in the streets today. we tried to go to a square where one of the protests were planned, but the military has imposed barricades across the neighbor, surrounding the mosque and square. tanks block the street, so does barbed wire, so the protesters were simply not able to get to that square. so they moved to other parts of the city. but there is a real concern among a lot of protesters for more violence. we are seeing a big sign t

her appeal may be that she is the widow of a martyr akino. but she is proving to be favorite. >> i admit that i have no experience in cheating, stealing, lying, or -- >> akino says she is not a communist but will give amnesty to all rebels that lay guns. >> i dare him to be man enough to face these issues. and may the better woman win. >> there is a third element in this election, leftist groups, communists included they call for a boycott of the ballot box saying the election is a sham. >> the united states government does not play favorites in philippine elections that is not our business. that is the business of philipinos. >>> lloyd talks to philippine voters on which candidate they support. >> and the event that led to the exit of marcos. look at 'em. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplace else, we

protesters are calling for a day of martyrs on friday. we will go live to cairo where robert has the latest. >> more than three years after he was taken into custody, former egyptian president mubarak was released from prison. his trademark sunglasses, he was wheeled into a military medical helicopter. mubarak is at the hospital, this is where we expect him to be held under house arrest until his retrial starts as soon as sunday. >> let me ask you about his release. there was speculation there might be an outcry. there has been so much going on in egypt. how has this been playing out for the country? >> like everything, it is very difficult to tell. like you say, a reaction was expected, but outside the prison itself, a small crowd gathered. everybody appeared in different. quite a few people saying the court was simply following the law. they have somewhat blamed the military or the government, saying they were simply following the law. you can't hold somebody on trial for more than two years. they served two years and four months. that

you've been characterized as a hero and as a villain, a martyr, terrorist. >> i'm not yet a martyr. >ep it that way. >> julian assange, the nomadic founder of the website wikileaks, is under legal and personal attack from the u.s. government for publishing military and diplomatic secrets. when we met him, he was under house arrest in the english countryside, where we conducted the most extensive television interview he's given about his life, his beliefs, and his concern about being charged and extradited to the united states.

he does not, or has not looked at the true definition of a martyr. if given an opportunity what i want to say to him face to face is you failed in your mission and he chose one of the weakest people to perform the mission. and for you to fire seven shots at an individual and that person is still living, that's sad. but at the end of the day i get a chance to get up out of this chair, walk out of this room. something he cannot do. i get a chance to lay beside my wife. and i don't have to live a life in dreams of receiving 40 virgins. >> it is inspiring to talk to you. you are a true american hero. thank you for your service and for your actions that day which certainly stopped him from killing more people and it's an awful, awful episode in the history of america and this military. i salute you for your actions. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, tavis smiley tells me why he thinks the true message of martin luther king, jr. is being ignored and if king were live today why he might have tough questions for president obama. the boys used double miles fr

and now the brotherhood has martyrs to revenge. >> we will not stop. >> reporter: at the mosque, hundreds of bodies were lined up for collection, blocks of ice to keep them cold. the carpet wet, the air filled with freshener to mask the smell, families distraught and overwhelmed. this woman searches for her son, 19. she has a photo from school. he went to the protests yesterday, but never came home. he may be here, but i can't tell. collapsed on a chair, she doesn't need to look further. at her feet, her 27-year-old husband shot in the head, father of her toddler. she has no job or money. i pray to god to give me strength, she said. egypt may have overstepped in its crackdown but it is not showing signs of remorse. and tonight the mosque with the bodies inside was actually raided by egyptian police who used tear gas to break up the crowds. they took the bodies. >> richard, we saw some people voicing support in your report for the government's crackdown. is there a way to gauge how much support the muslim brotherhood has now versus the government? >> reporter: it is very difficult to know.