if we read only those martyr stories, we would suppose that all christians were heroes, and that theh flourishes because of that heroism. obviously, this is an idealization. if we actually tote up the number of martyrs that we can identify, it's a really quite small number over the three centuries during which christianity was in the position of being the outsiders. >> we don't have tens of thousands of people being martyred. what we do have is tens of thousands of people admiring the few who are martyred. ( crowd cheering in background ) >> the story of the martyrdom of perpetua is a very important milestone in the development of early christianity because of what the story tells us about the perception of christians at that time. we can see the contrast rather sharply. at the time of pliny, at the beginning of the second century, christians are an unknown commodity. and so even when he executes them, he really doesn't know quite what to make of them. within 100 years, by the year 203, when perpetua meets her death as a martyr, christianity has become a recognizable commodity. ( cro

give them a martyr, what the hell?> i think when you do things like this you should suffer the rest of your life. i think killing him would be humane. >> i never understood the process of mir ter dom. i don't recall seeing one statue erected for a person who had taken their life. do they get honorable mention? what do they do? how are they treated as a martyr? >> they call them martys. they name the kid marty. >> i think when they play -- do they have like a halve champions and at the end of the field -- >> it strengthens their cause. >> i just want to remind you how we have gone through this period of never wanting to believe the worst about people. remember our own mayor when this first happened what he thought it was. >> if i had to guess .25 cents, this would be exactly that, somebody who -- >> homegrown? >> homegrown or a mentally deranged person or somebody with a political agenda that doesn't like the healthcare bill or something. it could be anything. >> he is forth $40 billion? how did he get that? >> if you l

and he was martyred by martyred at that time. the ninth guru was also murdered by rulers in dehli or by the emperor. out of that, the passivist sikhs turned to fight for their rights. and guru singh ordained the form so the sikhs could stand out and stand up for everybody's rights if they are persecuted under tyranny or injustice. >> i read a sentence to be a sikh is to be a warrior for the outside and the inside. >> saint soldiers. >> that's the concept. >> i think it's very important to understand when guru singh had five of his main followers, he baptized them and then they baptized him. it's a very beautiful function that guru singh performed for us. >> baptism? >> baptism is a christian word, but it's very similar. >> a ritual of washing and awakening, is that right? >> it's called a ritual of baptism by steel. so what you do is you have a steel vessel in which you add water and you add some sugar into it, the sugar symbolizes the sweetness that you have to bring to your personality and the steel symbolizes the strength that

jonathan mentioned, it is a martyr complex, it is egotistical. some people said, you are being egotistical. it was month -- none of those things. he wanted attention in the case because he knew that it would help him win the case. it would affect the prosecutor's decision. it would affect the judge if it ever got to the sentencing phase. a ultimately, he won the case. your concern the influence the way public defenders are portrayed in news media, and perhaps those who write for the entertainment media. >> before i move into how we can change the image, and want to ask jonathan a question. today, how would you cast for the role of a criminal defense attorney for television? >> i have had the pleasure of doing that twice. i created two series that nobody really watch. i have had the experience on two separate occasions, sitting with casting directors, trying to cast the role of defense lawyer. it is interesting, a defense lawyer can look american.

. >> i think it is more martyrs, really. >> rose: you think is for martyrs. >> i think it is a terrible job. >> i mean with all due respect, obviously. >> it's a terrible job. >> and it's long. the road is long. are you there from conception to delivery. one of the things that i adore about randall wallace, and why i think he was perfect for this-- this screenplay. and he did, actually, do quite a bit of rewriting. >> a lot of polishing up. >> and he has a gift for that and he's open to all our suggestions. but he has a natural eye for the archetype within any story. you can read him a haiku and will find the honor and the courage and the might. he understands that. and yeah, he haslett all charm. >> very charming. >> so he met me with a dozen red roses. i said he cheated. what can i say. he had me at hello. >> rose: someone comes with a dozen red roses. >> i got the metaphor of winning the derby already. and it was easy. >> rose: you were easy after that. >> pretty much. >> we had a couple of dates but he -- >> but he also, you know, he came in to this film and i think knew definitely

yeltsin where i should have that was my mistake the liberal press now saw yeltsin as a political martyr and man of the papal yeltsin vigorously backed any democratic initiatives such as freedom of speech and market reforms. the vent prime minister. not to rush with the political reforms in the country. i used to tell which of many times we have to stop all of that we will lose the country tomorrow i will resign and to morrow you will be left with yeltsin in the same team you won't last for long but he lost it for a year. december one thousand ninety. plummeted by contrast boris yeltsin became the people's favorite politician. he was the first time profile russian official to show his hobbies in public. what is boris yeltsin always was a sporting man with a fighting spirit one who kept himself fit that was especially true of tennis its main theories are countered with his party colleagues. by nine hundred ninety two ninety vocalists had become nelson's right hand man both on the court and in government yeltsin appreciated people's fighting spirit many of his associates had to learn to pl

washing cars but despite their stolen childhoods they are the lucky ones a year ago my dude was martyred he was working with the police and died during a rocket explosion. this is very very hard work i make about a dollar a day sometimes the other boys are fighting with me they say they want to wash this car. is a piece of color is twelve he manages to bring a few dollars more into the home but it's barely enough to feed his mother and seven sisters to each other every day i wake up so early my house is very far from here and a good day i can go about eight dollars but in some days there's no work yesterday it was no work so i'm going to go there but for some children it's easiest to come to this means a big doesn't make a playground the university of life. most parents don't want their children to come here to school that's because these young boys and girls are the only breadwinners in their families and spending just one hour in class could mean no food on the table that night fifty seven percent of the population of afghanistan is below twenty five years. majority of them they are bo

all saints day, a time to honor all saints and martyrs. all souls day celebrated tuesday by catholics and protestants. prayers are said for loved ones who have died. also in the week ahead, hindu, the festival of lights, a popular holiday marking the victory of good over evil. that's our program for now. i'm bob abernathy. there's much more on our website. you can comment on all of our stories and share them. audio and video podcasts are also available. you can follow us on facebook and twitter. and now you can watch religion and ethics newsweekly any me, anywhere on smart phones, iphones and ipads. our new mobile web app offers news headlines, story videos, program audio, andour multi-faith calear, too. join us at pbs.org. >>> as we leave you with music of the late johnny cash, who this week was named one of the newest inductees to the gospel music hall of fame. ♪ ♪ >>>

to eighty percent of all of their mortgages the martyrs they blow themselves up because they believe in this fundamentalist ideology a free market capitalism where the quicker and more whole aish asli you murder your fellow american and global citizen the bigger the payout the credit default swaps and they are just still alive you know and she didn't go out didn't go the way of bear stearns and lehman brothers a.i.g. the spawn of the devil's. putrid she d.s. . len arm is still active with the devils and lloyd blankfein to the room i'm sorry what do you think some of the e-mail right now guys are reported on t.v. are you should we waterboard or decapitated. blank line. next show based on the emails coming from you i want to get my box cutter ready for the decapitation i mean if it took down the twin towers it can certainly take down lloyd blankfein so some e-mail cards are reported r t t v dot ru next year we should bring you many rocks thank you not even texan to do the waterboarding or the decapitation oh this is going to grow so what is going on you know the g twenty met this weeke

we are willing to sit down to date to martyr figure out ways to bring those firefighters back. kron4 a >> news. the giants will be back in atlanta for game 4 tomorrow. today the giants beat the braves, to take it to one lead in the series of the best of five. meaning the giants all we need to win just one more. the giants' winning streak to the >> 2. the raiders showed some fight today, the final play to seal the victory, a 64 yd run into the end zone. the giants won. both the raiders and the niners play in home stadiums, but teams should big about sharing stadiums. they talked about that at halftime at the raiders' game today. he points to the success that the giants and jets of out play out of the same stadium. voters recently approved a plan to build a 68,000 seat stadium or the niners. still ahead on kron4 news, why the truck miners do not want to be the first to leave in the rescue. this year's campaign is getting particularly ugly, giant fans celebrate today's big win. those are just a few of those stories still ahead on kron4 news. work is underway to assess care the esc