so iid a whole bunch of paintings of marvin gaye. michael jackson actually recorded there. he would often go to the studio just to look at the paintings and, you know, also record, you know. so, he saw the paintings and called me and asked me if i could do one for him. but, you know,igger. geoff: michael jackson wanted you to do what you had done for marvin ge. but bigger is better. kadir: that's right. that's right. unfortunately, he passed away before i could really get going on it, but i end up doing the painting anyway for the guy that owned the studio. and then drake ended up later recording there and saw those paintings and thought, you know, i would be a good fit to create the artwork for his album cover. geoff: as you see it, when is art most effective? kadir: i think art is most effective when it stirs something up inside of people. the work that i create, i intend for ito remind people of the better parts of themselves because i feel that if you see something that reminds you of something that is beautiful about yourself or integris or something that reminds you o

marvin gaye, mercy me, the ecology. joni mitchell. writing about, you know, they're paving paradise ice and putting up a parking lot. pete seeger holding folk songs and and rallies and shutting down things like bodega bay, california, saving it from a nuclear power plant, being built on the san andreas fault line. these fights are all over, all around us. and just, i think getting gauge which organization you decide to sign up to, whether it's a new one or it's a sunrise movement, whether or whether you're going back, you want to be a sierra club person or you're going to fight with the green amendment. i mean, go for it, but do it with with an idea that victory can be ours if we organize. and then all these groups need to meet and keep this green power movement alive and well in the 21st century. and it is alive and well thanks to people like maya, who's doing remarkable work, a bold grassroots work this one right here, remarkable and let's let's give her a round of applause for for. that. that is wonderful. thank you to you both. i

we are talking about rachel carson and the presidents, but marvin gaye with the song mercy me or piecing or going on saving the hudson river from ruin, stopping, citizen -- stopping thomas edison from building a plan on the river. electric was building an atomic plant and a nuclear campus on the san andreas fault line, and that got stopped by grassroots activists. and the point is by the time you deal with nixon, the endangered species act of 1973 pased the senate 92-0. nixon was a leader in it. our country has pulled together on the idea that we have got to protect what we love so much, and we have got to think today always. in my mind, i know we have climate change, another topic, but why can't we swim in our lakes? why can't we swim in the river? why do our fish have to be poisoned and we worry about getting mercury poisoning or something else from eating them? these are the questions rachel carson asked. ddt was killing the ball eagle, osprey going extinct, the condor going extinct, alligators disappearing. in the book i list all the species. our country acted and we did something, s

marvin gaye with the song mercy me.ete seeger stopping edison from building an electric plant at the most beautiful spot of the hudson. the banning of -- they were building a specific atomic plant , a nuclear campus near the san andreas fault line that got stopped by grassroots activists. the endangered species act of 1973 passed the senate -- the senate 92-0. russell train, who helped to fund the world life -- the world wildlife fund. we have to think today, always. why can't we swim in our rate? why do our fish have to be worried about getting mercury poisoning? these are the questions. the symbol of america, eagles near extinct, the osprey going extinct, alligators. i put in the book the list of all the species our country actively did something. i am grateful to that generation that we did get environmental. we did get an endangered species act. a clean air act in 1970 made a difference. we had a clean water act in 1972. this silent spring generation, there were a lot of people. three presidents were responsive to t

marvin gaye, mercy me, the ecology. joni mitchell. writing about, you know, they're paving paradise ice and putting up a parking lot. pete seeger holding folk songs and and rallies and shutting down things like bodega bay, california, saving it from a nuclear power plant, being built on the san andreas fault line. these fights are all over, all around us. and just, i think getting gauge which organization you decide to sign up to, whether it's a new one or it's a sunrise movement, whether or whether you're going back, you want to be a sierra club person or you're going to fight with the green amendment. i mean, go for it, but do it with with an idea that victory can be ours if we organize. and then all these groups need to meet and keep this green power movement alive and well in the 21st century. and it is alive and well thanks to people like maya, who's doing remarkable work, a bold grassroots work this one right here, remarkable and let's let's give her a round of applause for for. that. that is wonderful. thank you to you both. i