this is the same thing that happened to marvin j. and his father. that's what marvin gaye's father shot him. killed him. my father would have killed me spit because your mother intervened and said you should go out of your. >> she said get out of here, go away. >> now, what's interesting is you just described yourself as technically having been in jail for 20 years, 66-85, but the violence and the whole world of hatred that you describe to me that's been a jail for you for 40 plus years until you discovered yourself. let me read again for you from the book. this is an interesting mode because you think you'll be 74 years old. you've been in jail, but you also write here i was a prize fighter at one point. i was a soldier of one point. i was a conflict -- conflict at one point. usage or executive director of a group that was called association of events of the wrongfully convicted at one point. today you are ceo of the innocence international group. >> yes. >> and you say but if i had to choose an epitaph to be carved on my tombstone, remember, this i