much like lyndon johnson who went through that whole business in the '06sbout can you have guns and butter? >> rose: did president obama make the wrong decision on afghanistan? >> marvin speaking is? >> rose: yes. >> don't think he made the wrong decision but we are getting to a int now where the good stuff that we could derive from continued operations in afghanistan is beginning to dwindle. and i am reminded, charlie, and you were hanging around at that time, too. but in the '70s when the congress began to think about vietnam, they began to think how do iend thisar? d a lot ofeople said "we end the war by cutting the funding." what we're seeing now congress, not just the military stuff but they are planning to save money on the debt, both the republican and democratic plans talk about if youull out of both iraq and afghanistan you may end up saving a trillion dollars over ten years. >> rose: i talked to stanley mcchrystalnd otherswho say the one thing the afghanistan... afghans would constantly say to him-- stanley mcchrystal when he was head of forces there-- is "promise us you're not going to leave." because that's what happened in... >> absolutely. >> rose: when