marvin kalb who at the time was with cbs news. they're -- >> good morning. a great show, gentlemen. my question is for either one of the gentlemen. less than a year into the vietnam war, president johnson was given a report from our military that the incident as reported never happened, but i wanted to know did the media at the time know this report? >> the answer to that question is at the time we did not know about the report, but that particular incident was the one that moved the united states very dramatically into the vietnam war. it happened on august second and august 4 of 1964 and they were two attacks against an american destroyer right off the shores of north vietnam and the first attack actually did take place. but lyndon johnson did not take retaliatory action after that first attack. when the second attack took lace on august 4, he did, but it turned out at that time that we knew that it did not take place. it was bad reporting from the ship's captain on the destroyer. mcnamara knew it was bad reporting and he knew the report did not take place in the attack did not take place in lyndon johnson knew that, but johnson went on the air and declared that the attack had taken