and a young man came from western north dakota to do his master's work with me, his name is marvin johnsonroot? do you remember his wife? i think she served as a volunteer as first lady for several first ladies. >> i did not remember, but i was not there in 1960s. >> they were there twice in washington. merrill johnsroot. >> i really don't remember. but i cannot remember the 17 grandchildren's names. >> anyway, we hosted them a couple of weeks ago and they interacted informally with the faculty in our department and i think her skill was addressing the christmas cards or anything. >> that is a real skill too. >> there are a lot of volunteers in correspondence, people may not know. that >> she was quite willing to rank mrs. carter on to the president, first ladies with which the niceness with which they were treated as a volunteer. >> yes? i don't blame you don't go any further. >> my name is shyanne, how is life different after your husbands are out of office. >> i'm going let her answer it after me p people treat the former president's wife so nice. they are seriously nice, you have to stop p