and so is what he did was him and marvin miller, marvin miller, the genius of marvin miller, is that the labor movement and a lot of labor leaders today need to see this, does not exist in a vacuum. he got that black workers were becoming radicalized. he talked with kurt flood about how to push that forward. and even though kurt flood, the story ends up being tragic. but he fought to end the reserve , clause, which was the trigger for the salaries spiraling upward to where we are today. what i take from it is one player, about alex rodriguez, they said if alex rodriguez has a soul, he'll send 10% of his paycheck to kurt flood's family. dave, is there any truth to the rumor that you were on steroids when you wrote this book? [laughter] >> that is not really my question. could you talk about the way the sports world and the ensuing madness in the media, co-opted pat tillman's move from pro football into the u.s. military? dave: well, the person who asked that question is a writer named mickey z., one of the best writers out there. if you've never heard of him, should get his stuff. [ap