it was maybe at the court of y, marvin sheila and grew to we're discussing and heather was there. i mean that there was this strong competition between so many small courts, maybe the big difference between a russian history and, and the many european histories you have. because there's not one is that, um, especially in the, on the territory of what is today. germany, austria, and other central european countries, it was quote, a holy roman and pile of germination, which they factor were hundreds of small quarts of very small quartz, bowden, bowden by mar, tooling an hour. but that also let to competition and you had to miss san you had count thought, dukes, who tried to attract the most the brightest minds of those time. some of them went bankrupt while investing in art or a new causal. but that's also brought competition on the arts level on the university level to give you an example that had always met him fair. so you can give me that example after short break, but we have to take it right now. we will be back in just a moment. ah, at this hour, american and coalition forces