we're looking for mary alice. i don't know where she is. you know? i even made a pretense of anything i can do to help, let's do flyers, let's do this, let's do that. >> clapsy's offer to help, however, fooled no one. four days later he and his roommate were arrested. both confessed. >> i usually review inmates' records. i realized during the interview that i was actually talking to him on the anniversary date of the murder. and he had been so unemotional and almost cavalier in his telling of his crime, so i decided to ask him what day he committed the murder. >> august 4th, 2001. >> you know what today is? >> yeah, i know what today is. >> what happens to you on august 4th? >> well, now that you've brought it up, something is probably going to happen to me that i get to deal with all by myself, but usually nothing. it's not an anniversary i celebrate or don't celebrate. i can't posture and say, you know, i think about her all the time. i don't. she's dead. now, how i feel about what i did is a different story. i feel horrible. i mean, i can't believ

it did not matter if that was on the bottom of that mary alice trench or had run aground in cape may. if it once along to the navy, it the navy.onged to immediately after the battle of hampton roads, and the navy expressed interest in bringing up cumberland and seeing if it could be reused. the secretary of the navy hired massachusetts solid diver maureen bates to conduct a preliminary survey of these racks and his report, which was the earliest account of conditions on the sunken warship was not optimistic at all. he wrote the cumberland lies and 56 need of water, deeply embedded in the mud, healed to an angle of 45 degrees. the water is very thick and with some difficulty, we could get it out. everything appears in confusion down there. damagencluded the sustained by the vessel was too extensive to justify the cost of raising it. however, the u.s. navy continued to find ways to recover property like an imperiled that they reused. for the next decade, the government sold the rights of recovery to a succession of firms. this created issues in later years because in the 19th century, t

the suffrage movement with its brutality, women literally dying for the cause of our country, alice paul, maryrch tirrell, liberty stanton, the heroism of activist, the time when you were organizing you didn't get a threat to lose your job you got a threat to lose your life. people like eugene debs, phillip ran.gov, who had the goldnebold before i be a slave i'm be buried in my grave. nat turner, civil right activists who's name that isn't well-known. like fred charles worth had his home bombed, his wife chain whipped, himself being stabbed, fighting for america. these are or an sessionters, these are our roots, people who never surrendered to circumstances kept on dreaming. i have to tell you right now when i hear my mom utter something from lewis carroll it fort fies me, as i get back on a red eye to fly back to washington, in my head were the songs from a kid in a black church in cullster new jersey, the spirituals that have been sung that my mom impressed upon me, you're hearing them now in the 1980s as a little boy but those are the songs that sourced us. ♪ ain't nobody gonna turn me arou