pearl hadtt been beheaded. and the really tragic and brutah way he was killed. and i've kept up with mary ann k pearl when i went to paris just a year ago after george was president for international literacy day at unesco. i invited mary ann pearl out to lunch with the two spouses of the two current ambassadors, the bilateral ambassador to france from the united states and the wife of our ambassador to unesco so they could meet her. but, in fact, she told me thenfa and two weeks later she was, she became an american citizen. so she's a citizen of the united states now. >> again, with the privacy thing you discuss as you talk aboutvay some of your yosemite trips or your hiking trips with yours, friends and how you were able th get away on those. >> uh-huh. o >> is it possible, we've all seen the articles about the carla bruni book, the first lady of france and what michelle obama reportedly said, is it possible to have a private ha conversation in your capacity? >> oh, it is, of course. yo and who knows, she probably didn't say that at all. that was probably made up. i think carla bruni said

one of them is a visit with mary ann pearl in paris. >> that's right.bout danny pearl's kidnapping. he was a wall street reporter. we all at the time assumed he was dead. he didn't know that. when i was in paris, i knew mary ann lived there. she was pregnant with their first child. i had a chance to visit with her privately. my daughter jenna was with me. we had a chance to talk to her and bring encouragement and comfort to you. shortly after that visit, we found out that danny pearl had been beheaded. we found out the tragic and brutal way he killed. i kept up with her when i went to paris last year, a year ago after george was president for international literacy date. i vine -- i invited her out to launch with the ambassadors the united states and the wife of our ambassador to unesco. she told me then and she was, she came an american citizen. so she's a citizen of the united states now. >> again, the privacy thing, you discuss this, you talk about some of your yosemite trips and hiking trips, how you were able to get away on those. is it possible? w