. >> it is funded by it mary anne herbert sandler. they are heavy into the democratic party. why would they give $10 million a year to this enterprise? >> sanders believed in journalism, and they and the leadership embarked on an effort to expand the funding base so it is not dependent on anyone. you mentioned they are active democrats, which is true, but i defy you to identify a partisan agenda. >> why do so many conservatives look at "the new york times" and say -- that is where it started -- it is a liberal newspaper, because i know you have dealt with it probably every day. >> i think there are a number of reasons. first of all, "the new york times" on its editorials is unabashedly a liberal newspaper. it takes liberal editorial stance. its lineup of: this is a liberal, -- why not of columnists is liberal. bruxism iconoclast who does not hit -- brooks is an icon of close to who does not fit into a category, -- is an iconoclast who does not fit into a category. i think the impact of the editorial and op-ed pages tends to create an aura that can spread over the rest of the