family continued to search for answers. >> and then in april of 1997, i got a phone call from mary bennettuld be their first conversation of many. mary told daron how she'd seen reports about a new program in orange county centered around investigating cold cases. cathy's case had specifically been mentioned. >> and mary said, "if they're going to use my daughter's murder as publicity for their program, by all means they're going to work it. and it's your job to make sure that that happens." >> reporter: there were no new murders in placentia in 1997, allowing daron to focus his full attention on this old one. >> and because you have -- you have mary bennett and the family, who's persistent, who are very well known and very well liked within the community, it did give me a lot of leverage when i went forth and said, "hey look, i need time to concentrate specifically on this case." >> reporter: daron pored through the files and hunted down new leads. and then a tip came in, seemingly out of nowhere. >> so a guy from a repossession company calls the police and says, "hey i repo'd this car ea

you need 50.1% to replace the director not so easy when you've got mary alice and bennett on the boardboth of whom combined control over 37% of the stock just the two of them. but not impossible given how many people have shown up in the past to vote but that would be tough. if you did want to actually sell the company, you need two-thirds virtually impossible if you don't get mary alice and bennett to agree to a potential sale doesn't mean that loeb does not have, as i would expect, a full slate prepared should he decide to come and challenge for every one of those board seats doesn't mean they've already undertaken as they do in these kinds of things p.i.s, private investigators who look into various things and can make life difficult for some people. there's crystal freeland she's not talking about campbell's soup but a canadian -- >> you never know. >> a dairy component in campbell let's listen to freeland [ speaking foreign language >> we'll wait until she starts to speak english again >> we'll wait and see if she switches back to english we're a day before that deadline before ca

an all out sale of the company is in the cards at this point but from what i understand mary alice malone and bennett remain opposed to that potential outcome. to your point, it's about 15.4%. >> i'm expecting there's going to be some sort of comprehensive plan presented here from the company. there could be some unexpected things, perhaps, has been rumored some sales of certain units. and as well, you know, we'll have to see what they put out there in terms of numbers, sara. in terms of potential targets. >> yeah. >> they have for earnings and the like we'll see. >> not a lot of hope there. >> no. >> and to your point, one i've made priestly the entire board is up the window will be open in time will be available to dan low. it's possible you could see him come if he's disappointed with the plan for the entire board. even if they were removed, it doesn't necessarily mean you can get a deal done because it would require the vote and the economics, as we outlined, are fairly significant right there so it was a weird situation. we'll have to wait to see. >> the fifth biggest investor $12 billion compan

those include bennett durant mary alice durant who owns as much as 17.7%.n people who at least have been trying to puts them together for me for some time arch burin on the board. so he's moved away from the rest of the family. what is unclear, and i've reported on this a bit in the mornings is what stance the family will take overall on the potential sale of campbells soup it's still unclear they would want to go down that road, but there may be further pregtser here given the entire board is up for election, and you could have an interesting scenario where they try to replace the entire board, but would they get the votes in a deal if it were to come to fruition to support it from the rest of the family a lot more going on, bill. was that big enough for you? >> very big. although the stock is up a rather luke up 1.75% right now power lunch. back after this. you always pay your insurance on time. tap one little bumper and up go your rates. what good is your insurance if you get punished for using it? news flash: nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident