>>>yeah. >> and i once asked mary beth, i said, mary beth - 'cause we talked on the phone mostly - hows do you think we've talked? and she answeeed rather too quickly - thousands. thousands. [laugh] oh, oh,3 okay. and, and what was interesting was is that i normally i think i'm pplite. >> yeah. >> .and, and somewhat thoughtful. in this i wasn't at all. thoughtful. in this i wasn't at all. i would, i would call them any time i needed. i said i need to talk to you about such and such. >> direct question. right. >> and i would ssy when can you give me time. and they'd go we-e-e-ll. and i'd say how 'bout sunday, and they would all, just kept giving. >> right. >> givvng, giving, giving. their time. what is more valuable than timm? >> but they also felt as close to her and as captivated by her as youú did. >> well, thhy wanted. yes, but, they wanted to sharr. >> right. >> .which is the unusual thing. >> the, the preparation for this, which e're getting into a little it, really, was extensive over these years, and it not only involved interviewing people whh were around her and knew her, but

mary beth. it's out of control spending on government employees and their pension plans. overcommitted ourselves to paying out ridiculous sumz of money of peenial work with generous benefits. >> cap the health and retirement benefits of all public workers, and gary, a department of education staffer, says i've seen so much waste and corruption it disgusts me. thanks to all. join the debate. n nbceditorials.com. ♪ home cooked meal: $28. ♪ first date finest: $33. ♪ having time on your side: priceless. mastercard paypass. bringing you the most convenient ways to pay. learn more at mastercard.com/paypass.

. >> and we've now reached the boss in the relationship, which is your wife, mary beth.ent a lot of time with your husband today. a fascinating character in many ways. had a lot to say about you. mainly of the you wear the trousers in this relationship. is that an accurate description? >> no. i think we're more of a team. and one person wearing the trousers. >> they say behind every successful man there's a good woman prodding him on. do you go along with that? >> i definitely think i'm a good woman. but we really do work as a team. and we really have helped each other both in our careers and in our personal lives. >> did you ever imagine that you'd end up being a governor's wife? >> not really. no. >> is it better or worse than you hoped? >> oh, i think it's been great. it's been really great. it's been a tremendous honor. just such a privilege to represent the state. really didn't imagine it would be so exciting and eventful. >> there's lots of talk of your husband possibly running for the presidency. when i asked him about it, i sort of got the sense that he didn't fe

. >> here with some fun and fancy-looking food options is "redbook"'s executive editor, mary beth rollinss not your grandma's "redbook"? >> no. >> what should we do? >> go to the grocery store and pick up things you don't have to toil over. >> take it out of the bag and serve it. >> these amazing gourmet chips, all natural, one step up from the usual chip. >> holy guacamole, you can get at any grocery store. this is how it's packaged, in a box? >> exactly. you pour it into your bowl and it looks like you made it yourself. >> hoda would lie and say she did. >> quit it. >> i would not say -- >> we've got two kinds of nuts, both spicy. blue diamond almonds that are chili and lime, which have a nice kick and these five-alarm chili, planter's peanuts. >> look at those things, they look like they're deadly. >> corn dogs, don't let the husband and kids eat them all before the guests arrive. >> i thought we were kicking them out? >> they're there beforehand. >> it's happy hour day. >> 24 hours of happy hour. >> two different drinks this is sangria. the great thing about it, you can make it will n

marie anthony. for "today," kerry sanders, nbc news, orlando. >> beth karas is a correspondent for "in session" on trutveat to see you. the last clip almost dismissed the idea that caylee drowned in the pool. that's the defense, isn't it? >> that is the defense. and her reaction was so quick, surprise, surprise, it was so dismissive of that theory of drowning that one has to wonder if it's not made up now. >> i want to talk about the scientific evidence because yesterday was a big day in terms of the forensic evidence. concentrating on the single hair that the researcher said could only come from a dead person. defense didn't even want that testimony in. >> no. and the defense did a good job cross-examining this expert. you see, it's not conclusive that it's absolutely caylee's hair. it's consistent with caylee and not casey because casey had color treated hair but root banding is what it's called, that appears when there's decomposition that falls out of a deadhead, is not necessarily indicative only of somebody having been dead. hair can fall out of the head that doesn't have banding and you're alread