anyway, mary bethinker came to my class at the university of pennsylvania, and she told her story with the armband. and then the students started asking questions and the first question was look ms. tinker you were fighting the good fight. you were fighting the war in vietnam. um these people today that spew hate racists and sexists hate these homophobes and transphobes. they just want to hurt people. why should they be allowed to speak? and very bad tinker at a very pointed response, which i'll never forget. he said listen at my middle school in des moines. there were students that had dads and uncles and brothers that were risking their lives in southeast asia. you don't think they were hurt by this not-nosed kid telling them that their loved ones for maybe gonna die for a lie. of course. they were speak hurts. and that's actually precisely why we need to protect it. because it hurts. there's always going to be an impulse to stamp it down. but when you do, it's actually the people at the bottom that are going to be hurt. and i mean really heard ie censored and that was mary about sou