no problem there but it was dan ackerson who made what i consider the boldest move of putting mary bharara and for product development. a broader question competently think it was good to bring outsiders and? i think we have outsiders in all three american companies. you have alan mulally at ford and dan ackerson at gm. i was always have the feeling that an automotive ceo should have an automatic background because he needs to understand the industry. i have revised my opinion on that. the most important is for a nonmotive -- nonautomotive experience ceo to possess good leadership skills and must have the judgment to be able to listen to the right people. alan mulally recently said somebody asked him you were an automotive person. how did you know how to move things forward? he said when i came to ford i didn't have a clue about what to do to move things forward at all of the ideas on fixing ford were right there with my people. these were people who had been held down and hadn't been listened to. i listen to them and their ideas made sense. the global product development at these which ge