. >> host: another piece of legislation that's making its way through congress is representative mary bono macs data security breach legislation. what's the position on that? >> guest: actually, we don't have a position on that. as we go into the cloud and give up information, these are really critical issues coming for us. how much of your information do you own? what's the responsibility of a company that uses it? what happens as we proceed along? there's so much more happening in the application world about gathering information about yourself, your where abouts, what rights you have, but i think in a reasoned way, public policy can deal with the issues. when the credit card was first introduced, there was great concern about losing everything, and congress did something smart saying, you know what? the most you'll lose is $50 if you lose the credit card. that unleashed a great use of credit cards, but helped the economy with financial transactions, made the passing of dollars bills a lot less, and it's helped society. we'll find our way out of the privacy issues recognizes the tradeoff