thank you, mary catherine.n very soon. >> brilliant -- martha: brand new poll numbers coming in, americans coming out against a couple of things in bigger numbers than before. we will look at what it could mean for the health-care debate on capitol hill. bill: $89 billion in overdraft fees this year, twice what they make for late payments and overdrawn credit card accounts. now some in washington are talking about a crackdown. we are on that story in five minutes. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill: support for the president's plan to overhaul health care are hitting a new low. surveys show that only 41% of americans favor the current proposals. that is down at least two points from last week. the lowest levels of support to date, 58% oppose what is on the table. only 16% of those over 65 approve of current legislation. that is stunning. these numbers could reshape reform on capitol hill. judd gregg is our guest on that, moments

i, mary catherine, did not understand a word the man said. -- mary katherine.s it mean that i am the dope? >> i think the sales job is really, really bad, and i think they were thinking that barack obama would say these things over and over, and they would come to be, but that is not the way it works. bill: juan, how much damage has this done to president obama's administration? >> his numbers are still very strong. do not be mistaken. he is still very popular, but in terms of his ability to get this health-care legislation through, and i think a lot of this debate about the economy, many think the economy is not picking up the way they think it should, especially in terms of the unemployment numbers be they are release spooked by the deficit, and they think this will be high taxes and inflation in the years to come, so they are worried, but it opens it up. obama has not laid out exactly what he stands for, so people throw out crazy stuff, and grandma is going to have the plug pulled, rationed care. >> rationed care is reasonable. bill: they have that in britai

mary, you make some great points. so many share your passions and frustration. to reiterate. we are talking about phillip garrido, convicted of kidnapping and raping catherinecallaway hall in 1976. took her to a warehouse, after eight hours of hell. this guy in testimony back then talked about having strong urges to rape, enjoying forced sex. this guy was not going to be rehabilitat rehabilitated. robin, i'm going back to you as so many are frustrated. his first wife talked about his violent nature. he went after her with a safety pin to try to gouge her eyes out and she has a scar to this day. this guy was not going be rehabbed. >> you are absolutely correct. there is no way he was going to be rehabilitated. when there is a crime, a kidnap and a rape together, we need to make sure someone is not hanging out on a registry list, they are being monitored with face-to-face contact. kudos to the community police officer at berkeley who saw this guy was acting strange and did something and investigated it further. why wasn't parole doing that same thing and walking around the house which they had the legal right to do. >> steve, do you think we will get a reform