detail and i won't go too much into detail here because i know we are shorter on time, but mary church terrell of the national association of colored woman. she was a big era supporter by the late 1930s and her organization endorsed the era, but mary mcleod bethune, what who is a well-known civil rights activist during the 1930s and 1940s. she opposed the era and she was more aligned at the liberal. stance she was a sport the women's status bill, which was a protectionist measured to kind of stamp out the era and then you also have racist attitudes. like i said pervading both the pro and anti-position. so you have someone like florence kelly who was a social reformer and a big era opponent testifying and congress in the 1920s saying something to the effect of if the era were to pass it would mean that black men and white women would have the same rights. so just a very racially a charged argument to try to flare up people's opinions, and then you also have people on the protection side like esther peterson and representative emanuel cellar who hated the era, but also we're very strong supporte