now only in microfilm -- thanks to you -- is a version of the memoir written by dolly's niece, mary cuttsuse the "memoir" this way because most of the stuff in the memoir happens before she's even born. we kind of think it as the close est auto biographical information we have. it refers to that. >> you're standing there. >> i'm by the mic. >> you are. >> dolly is first lady for eight years during madison's administration. >> yes. >> jefferson is a widower in the previous eight years. and james monroe who serves the next eight years after madison, his wife is somewhat limited in her ability to be in the public eye. so could you talk about how dolly her role as first lady expand in either one of those administrations? >> yes. so this is a question about dolly and her role as first lady. first, i would pity anybody who followed dolly madison. she was an act to follow. sadly for elizabeth monroe, people noted it. it was noted by people. and luisa katherine adams who would go on to follow miss monroe, she's just not dear dolly. of course what mrs. monroe brought -- once you understand that th

only in mic microfilm -- thanks to you -- is a version of the memoir written by dolly's niece, mary cuttsuse the "memoir" this way because most of the stuff in the memoir happens before she's even born. we kind of think it as the closestclose est automatic auto biographical information we have. >> dolly is first lady for eight years during madison's administration. >> yes. >> jefferson is a widower in the previous eight years. and james monroe who serves the next eight years after madison, his wife is somewhat limited in her ability to be in the public eye. so could you talk about how dolly her role as first lady expand in either one of those administrations? >> yes. so this is a question about dolly and her role as first lady. first, i would pity anybody who followed dolly madison. she was an act to follow. sadly for elizabeth monroe, people noted it. it was noted by people. and luisa katherine adams who would go on to follow miss monroe, she's just not dear dolly. once you understand there is this tension between aristocracy and republicanism or democracy, you can see the united states