i want to bring in mary ellen o'toole, the former senior profiler for the fbi, and mary schiavo, formerctor general of the d.o. it. mary now represents victims of negligence by transportation companies including airlines. and she joins me via skype. mary ellen o'toole, let me begin with you. is it time to stop giving consideration for the language barrier? time to stop believing this is maybe just all honest mistakes on the part of the malaysians? might there be something more sinister at stake here as you look at the investigation from afar? >> well, there could be something more sinister that's going on. but certainly at best it's very confusing. and it's creating a lot of doubt about how they're reaching their conclusions, how they're reaching their opinions. so for example, today when they said this was a criminal act, i'm unclear as to what they're basing that on. as a behavioral scientist, i have to have reasons to support my conclusions that something is criminal or not criminal. and i'm certainly not seeing the totality of the circumstances that allow them to say that. now, they

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oceanographer simon boxall and senior fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole thank you very much. >>> thank to get a live report out of malaysia coming up because cnn really tried hard to get answers out of this man, defense and acting transport minister. it is not an easy job. we're going to show you what happened. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains... you can't help but see the good. (music) defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. hot breakfast options. hampton, enjoy our free you did a great job. it looks good! then fuel up with up to 9,000 hhonors bonus points on a long weekend stay. make every stay more rewarding and feel the hamptonality. >>> welcome back. malaysia's defense minister says that until the missing plane's black boxes are found, he can't clear the passengers and crew from the shadow of suspicion. >> that's what he told cnn's ninic robertson who is trying to iron out new inconsistencies in what malaysia officials are saying. >> reporter: good morning, nic robertson from cnn, how are yo