mary ellen o'toole is a former fbi profiler. >> when you have an offender whose family is afraid of himo beats up on his girlfriend, that's the kind of violence that people look at and they're afraid of him and that type of violence is not going to go away. >> in 2010, he was arrested behind a dumpster near american iron works, carry a two-foot-long machete. >> i think that's very significant. because that occurred this 2010, which is five years after he left american iron works. so he's back at the same company with a may shechete, behaving i very threatening manner. >> wint was only convicted of a misdemeanor in that case, but now thanks to the dna evidence on that piece of pizza, he's the main suspect in a horrific quadruple murder. >> it's a giant olympic-sized broad jump from a piece of pizza to four homicides. >> wint's former attorney robin ficker, who represented him in past run-ins with the law, says police have the wrong guy. >> i know him to be a kind, gentle, nonaggressive person, someone you wouldn't mind your grandmother going to lunch with. >> right now it does not appear

back with us on the phone former fbi senior profiler mary ellen o'toole and joining the conversation,dan danny. when you look at the ideology, how does that change the way law enforcement would deal with it? >> i'm not sure they developed what his ideology is and there is a conflict in the behavior and how this whole thing concluded. if his ideology was to, you know, do maximum damage at the planned parenthood and to kill people and law enforcement, somewhere along the lines that commitment seemed to stop and he had almost a sign of change in his commitment to follow through with it which is surprising to me because in so many cases we see that ideology carries them through to suicide or suicide by cop. we didn't see that in this situation. the reason for that change in how this ended is going to be very, very critical. >> it is a complicated picture. danny, your thoughts on ideology and if that is motivating this person, how does that differ the threat for law enforcement, try to contain it? >> well, he's going to be hyper motivated. i think the fact that they had a safe room here pr

profiler mary ellen o'toole. thank you for your time. you heard our reporter dana lewis say there is a sigh of relief. i wonder from a perspective of intelligence is that what we should be breathing, a sigh of relief given that with him, the mastermind of paris probably took a lot of information and intelligence with him. >> yes, but still, the general public needs to have the opportunity to see a suction and to be able to have a sigh of relieve, because otherwise, you don't want to have this consistent sense of public fear and public panic, so people do need to breathe that sigh of relief and see that these are human beings and that they can strategically be taken down and psychologically, that's very important, and it's also very important to put the mental out to isis, because there's a very distinct message that at some level, many of them will be getting in this attack and the aftermath of this attack. >> do you believe that abaaoud, who has been seen in videos for from began da and in magazines, do you believe that his death could

. >> former fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole says inmates can be like predators on the look out for vulnerablehich are often women who work inside the prisons. >> it starts small, asking her to bring in a candy bar or asking her to bring in a stamp. there is wording that goes along with something like this, "if only i had met a woman like you 20 years ago, i would never be in this situation." so she would be very gullible in believing that. that's really called something we refer to in the fbi as magical thinking, that an inmate who has got that kind of a criminal background would tell you that and you would believe that. and then it goes even further to the point where they engage in sex together, and she becomes almost 100% compromised. >> compromised enough that joyce mitchell tells investigators richard matt made her feel special. and other reports say she thinks it could have been love. but was she in so deep she was willing to risk everything for it? >> i don't know why anybody is surprised. i think all americans know that crazy, lonely, low self-esteem type of people like prisoners in p

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