mary frances berry talk about that should be on the table? >> well, first of all, april, thank you for bring us together. don't know anybody that it admire more than mary frances berry. i just adore her. when i thought i would be on the panel with her, thought, hey. it's okay. it's all about mary frances berry. >> thank you for bringing us together and for the work you have done, not only to continue the series, but also to speak truth to power. i want to ask you a question. don't ant, but rhetorically, why didn't sean spicer just go someplace else? put his rags in a bag and go away? >> you told me not to answer so i'm just sitting here. >> even let him give blood. the other thing want to say with answer your question, congratulations. dr. ryan. >> thank you. [applause] >> honorary doctorate. pressured -- proud of you for that. i feel like bobby womack systems. if you think you're lonely now, wait until tonight. [laughter] >> i was an obama critic, and i was like, barack, come back, come back. but we were not -- we're not better off. barack ob