ronald sullivan and mary frances berry f. for the moment thank you both so much for sharing your initial reaction to this verdict with us here on al-jazeera i'd just like now to go to our correspondent who was always outside the courthouse and just also talk through some of the pictures that we are seeing really pictures of jubilation outside the courthouse the verdict the guilty on all 3 charges for derek chauvin john hendren tell me a little bit about what you're seeing at where you are and i guess your reaction as well to this verdict you of course have been following this trial for the past 3 weeks. well the good people who come by here have been extraordinarily emotional i think they've been pessimistic for so many years about so many police incidents where black men in particular but african-americans in general have been killed at the hands of police and. what we've heard is a real celebration but also a surprise i don't think people expected a guilty verdict on all 3 counts and so you're you're seeing some of that spi

very much indeed for that assessment to communicate the white house a little speak note to mary frances berry who's a former chair of the u.s. commission on civil rights and currently professor of american thought at the university of pennsylvania and she joins us live via skype from new orleans in louisiana mary frances berry great to have you with us here in a momentous moment off to so many years of despair tell us more about your reaction to. well obviously there could be some celebration and some thoughts about how momentous is how great it is and now glad we are that chopper was convicted on these 3 counts and it's not over and the george floyd vale that's in the house that was mentioned should be pest but it won't solve the problem the protesters around the united states who've been protesting since last spring want reform of their local police and their local communities including minneapolis so that the training is better and all sorts of things are better in their communities so you haven't heard the last of this and of course we now know that there are some problems with even in mi

thank you so much professor historian mary frances berry joining us appreciate it thank you. i want to bring you some other stories that are making headlines about will continue coverage of the trial but also focusing on other developments and india has reported its biggest single day increase in coronavirus cases with more than 103000 new infections the biggest contributor to this is the state of maharashtra home to mumbai which had more than 55 percent of the country's infections over the past 2 weeks from monday evening the stay is closing cinemas shopping centers and places of worship it will escalate to a full blown lockdown over the weekend india has confirmed and you variant of the virus the authorities of caution against linking it to the search. let's not blame the new strain for this it's our daughter who weighed in the appropriate behavior which is just one tool for this right so i think the whole country needs to understand and start practicing it from today don't go out of the house unless necessary or boyd closed. people collecting in closed rooms maintain socia

he still gets acquitted then i think people will be even more distressed and more disturbed mary frances berry that professor at the n.s.a. of pennsylvania great to get your thoughts here with us now to sam will have face the check and shortly thanks for being with us. thank you well the trial is currently on lunch recess and it should resume very shortly we will bring that all to you live here on al-jazeera when that happens. but in the meantime let's bring you some of the day's other news jordan's king abdullah has put his uncle in charge of handling the situation with the formal crown prince now according to an announcement made by the royal court on twitter prince hunter says he is committed to the family's approach he's currently under house arrest on sunday the jordanian government said it for said what it calls a malicious plot to destabilize the country king abdullah's half brother says he's being punished for speaking out against corruption he made those comments and a new race force recording. the situation is a little bit difficult all the guards have left and the chief of staff thr

all right thank you very much for joining us mary frances berry thank you. at least 54 people have died in taiwan's worst rail disaster on man truck rolled on to the track just as a train was approaching a tunnel in the east of the island ili 500 people wrong or did many survivors had to climb out of the wreckage the accident happened at the start of the ching main festival which is when people were tons of our ancestral villages to clean the graves of their relatives well taiwan has a vos trained what with woman a 1000 kilometers of tracks transporting more than 200000000 passengers every year the dramatic mountainous scenery in the east makes it a popular tourist draw that means the eastern roadway line is heavily used winding its way through towering mountains and deep valleys a train derailed just north of the city of wylie n while traveling from taipei to tight adrian brown now reports. it was a rescue team scramble to reach passengers trapped in the front carriages carriages that folded into each other after coming off the rails as the train entered a

let's go to mary frances berry here is a professor of american thought and history at the university of pennsylvania as well as a former chair of the u.s. commission on civil rights she joins us now from new warnings many thanks for speaking to us now to sara what do you make of the decision of derek 7 not to testify how do you think it's going to go down with the people of minnesota. well i think that the defense believes they are going to win the case and they didn't want to take the risk of having him put on and while it may seem to observers with all the evidence that they have seen all those videos and all the testimony that should be convicted the 2 witnesses yesterday have testified in police case after police abuse case and usually 'd their side has won because yasser and his get now off so they have every reason to believe that they have now. subverted the prosecution testimony and that they can find one whit one juror who will in fact disagree no matter what anybody says and that this guy will get off to i wanted to say though that training as you're less video showed is im

and we'll go back to it live when the court resumes session in the meantime let's speak to mary frances berry who is a professor of american social force and professor at the history of the university of pennsylvania she joins us now live via skype from nashville tennessee good to have you with us professor what are your thoughts thank you what are your thoughts on the case that the prosecution is building in this trial. well there are 2 points that i want to make sure i make and the 1st is that the prosecution is deliberately and going along with all kinds of experts of various kinds try to reinforce the idea that that george forward was killed by the police but bit me on the neck by the bullet hit behavior of the police and lost oxygen and bet 'd that that whatever else happened where the drugs were found whether he had taken drugs or not or whatever else had gone on that this is where the coal probability lives and at the same time in the cross-examination which has been very intense mr nelson is trying to show that any other factors whether it was drugs or the crowd or whatever that under

over and found out that he had been found guilty on all 3 charges by the jury well let's go to mary frances berry a professor of american thought and history at the university of pennsylvania and also the former chair of the u.s. commission on civil rights madame thank you so much for joining us here again allowed jazeera just a few minutes ago we heard from keith ellison the attorney general of minnesota he mentioned how accountability was a 1st step towards a justice and then he really praised the civic duty of the people who stopped to see what was happening to george floyd and fail while what was happening now obviously that proved to be key evidence during the trial but how important do you think it was that those images that video actually went around the world long before the jury looked that in actually caused protests almost a straightaway starting in minneapolis and then of course branching out to the rest of the country and the world. absolutely the context for the actual prosecution show. was the video they social media and the fact that we have social media and you can see things aro

mary frances berry is a professor of history at the university of pennsylvania. is the former chair of the u.s. commission on civil rights. she joins me by skype from new orleans. experts have spoken about the legal hurdles which stand in the way of cases like this one. what is your feeling after richard zimmerman's testimony today? does it make a conviction more likely? mary: i will answer you, but i first need to tell you there is a connection between what happened at the capitol and what is going on in the chauvin trial and what is going on in the u.s. generally in terms of people who want police reform and are concerned about police being too overbearing. all those things are connected. and the assailant there at the capitol who is now dead. we can't question him. he may have been part of the people who have been arguing for weeks they want the barricades taken down at the capitol. fortunately, when they took them down, look what happened. that means we are more likely to get them put back up and less likely to get police reform around the country. the connec

mary frances berry professor of american thought and history at the university of pennsylvania she says ending qualified police a menacing escape. the defense believes they are going to win the case and they didn't want to take the risk of having him put on and while it may seem to observers with all the evidence that they have seen all those videos and all the testimony. that should be convicted the 2 and mrs yesterday have testified in police case after police abuse case and usually their side has won because yasser and his get enough so they have every reason to believe that they have now. subverted the prosecution testimony and that they can find one with one juror who will in fact disagree no matter what anybody says and that this guy will get off to i wanted to say though that training is important but the most the key thing in all of this police reform effort is qualified immunity as long as police officers themselves have no risk when they kill people in the civil cases and they don't get convicted in the criminal cases nothing will happen and the militarization started after th

and i think you would want to do it so i think he should get on with the business of doing it mary frances berry is discreet to have you on the program to appreciate that thanks very much for the thank you or i thank you so much and thank you. now the u.s. has seen 142 mass shootings since biden took office and on wednesday he had congress to pass gun safety laws the president who calls gun violence and international embarrassment has issued executive orders but critics say they just think go far enough under gallica as this report. the gun violence archive an independent organization that tracks gun crime defines a mass shooting as for almost shot or killed by that metric 2021 is already a deadly year with $147.00 my shooting across the nation in march alone 8 people were killed in atlanta less than a week later 10 died at a supermarket in colorado. yet the issue of gun control remains as ever deeply divisive. in the run up to his election joe biden promised tough action including buying back weapons banning imported guns and so-called commonsense steps to curtail a uniquely american problem wh